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I'll give a Seabreezer $2000 to find me a buyer!!

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Created by BrightonQLD > 9 months ago, 30 Jul 2013
BrightonQLD
6 posts
30 Jul 2013 9:10PM
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Long time Seabreeze user posting under a throwaway account because I'm not sure I'm comfortable posting my address under my real account. Mods can check via IP or PM.

This is not spam... it's me trying to hurry up the sale of my house because I've bought another and the weight of 2 mortgages is really stressing me and my family, I can't keep it up forever.

I have decided to offer a $2000 kickback to anyone who finds a buyer for my house.
Simple system - you recommend my house to your friend that wants a house in the area.
Friend writes your name/number on offer document when making offer on house. We sign.
We write term into contract that you get paid $2,000 at settlement. Both parties sign.
House settles. We get paid. You get paid. Everyone happy.

It's a great house for Brisbane Kiters, Windsurfers, SUPers etc. 2 Avenues along water from the Brighton kite beach - 5 minutes stroll with your gear. Watch kites go by while BBQing on your front deck. Catch amazing sunrises every morning.

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-qld-brighton-114191027

Bit more info: Purchased this house for $667k a bit over 2 years ago. Have poured at least $130,000 into renovations in that time, probably quite a bit more. Everything was done top quality with the intention of staying. Now selling for $719 firm, reduced from $750k which is what 3 realos valued it at. Buyer is getting a bargain on those figures. Upstairs is completely renovated, downstairs is clean and ready for a cheap reno to finish it, internal walls and ceiling, paint and floor covering. This can be done over time, at buyer's leisure and to make whatever configuration they want. (extra bedrooms/rumpus/granny flat/etc).


Mark _australia
WA, 23701 posts
30 Jul 2013 9:59PM
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as an over average wage earner with fk-all debt, banks will lend me $300K ....... if I am lucky I can get a dogbox in the Bronx with needles on the front lawn. Thanks very much mining boom.

My heart bleeds for one who can't sell at $700K after getting over committed.



FormulaNova
WA, 15105 posts
30 Jul 2013 10:05PM
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Mark _australia said..

as an over average wage earner with fk-all debt, banks will lend me $300K ....... if I am lucky I can get a dogbox in the Bronx with needles on the front lawn. Thanks very much mining boom.

My heart bleeds for one who can't sell at $700K after getting over committed.






You didn't read it right! He wants $719 firm! That's a bargain. A huge drop from $750k, but I think it can't be too bad.

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
30 Jul 2013 10:30PM
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Nice house, good luck with the sale but from the photos it looks like the lawn has fungus. No point in having a nice house if the lawn is ****.

Should honestly be a criminal offence to have a bad lawn.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
31 Jul 2013 12:47AM
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Nice looking pad, but I'm guessing that with only 1 bathroom and no lockable garage...near twice the median price for the area - it hasn't quite got the bang that the buyers are looking for?

Very nice detail though - I hope you get a buyer soon.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
31 Jul 2013 4:30AM
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Sailhack said..

Nice looking pad, but I'm guessing that with only 1 bathroom and no lockable garage...near twice the median price for the area - it hasn't quite got the bang that the buyers are looking for?

Very nice detail though - I hope you get a buyer soon.


unfortunately I agree with Sailhack

hamburglar
ACT, 2174 posts
31 Jul 2013 7:43AM
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That's what the buy and sell section is for buddy

BrightonQLD
6 posts
31 Jul 2013 6:46AM
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Hamburglar - I wanted more exposure - I'm giving away $2,000 not your average buy/sell ad.

Sailhack - Median price not overly helpful - water proximity drives prices. Competing pricewise with those along the waterfront, with smaller view but 3 houses back, just far enough to miss the traffic, walkers, and packs of cyclists. Means you can enjoy brekky in your PJs without constant gawkers.

Mark - don't need your heart to bleed, just want to find a buyer and I'm trying to think laterally. I have worked my way up from a 300k dogbox, mostly due to double income and 2 hard workers renovating/improving instead of sitting on the couch. Thankfully I bought in halfway thru the property price boom and didn't miss it entirely.

jamdfingr
QLD, 663 posts
31 Jul 2013 8:50AM
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Even with the understanding that you paid $650 for it and spent $150 doing it up, it's all just accountant numbers to everyone else. Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. Hence why a new car loses 30% of its face value as you drive it out the dealers lot.

But good luck with the sale. Looks like a nice place.

BrightonQLD
6 posts
31 Jul 2013 7:09AM
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Yep you're right, it's worth what someone will pay. I'm not crying about losing money because the place I purchased was a similar story. So long as you buy and sell in the same market then you're fine in the long run.

Average time on market is 160-180 days in Brighton right now. I'm just trying an experiment to see if I can speed it up. Depending on you lot's reaction I might take it to readit, whingepool, facespace, etc.

choco
SA, 4186 posts
31 Jul 2013 8:54AM
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you may find this is illegal( In sa anyway), unless you're a registered Real Estate Agent you cannot sell someones house on their behalf

sausage
QLD, 4874 posts
31 Jul 2013 9:54AM
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you may find this is illegal( In sa anyway), unless you're a registered Real Estate Agent you cannot sell someones house on their behalf


Choco,
Nothing illegal in Queensland giving someone a spotter fees - in fact it is quite common in the RE industry where soemone introduces a potential buyer to an agent and the agent gives then a small % of the commission if a sale takes place.

PS - what have you been up to? No wind down your way.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
31 Jul 2013 10:45AM
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BrightonQld, I hope I didn't come across as rude, as I'm going through a similar experience with a townhouse I designed & had built as my first (possibly last) attempt at property development. See below; (might as well blatantly plug my own place to make a point)

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-vic-portland-113735239


Opening up alternative exposure is definitely the right way around it as I would guess that it's possibly well-priced (without knowing the area) and you only need one potential buyer to fall in love with it & it will sell. I've been close with the above property, but haven't managed to get that signature due to finance or the potential buyers not being able to sell their homes in order to buy.

As per choco's & sausage's comment - you're both right - you can't sell the house unless you're a registered licensed agent, but you can introduce a buyer & there is nothing illegal about receiving a monetary gift for making that connection.

Another example - I did a renovation design for a client earlier this year after they gave up on trying to sell their small home - advertised (very cheap) for over 12 months. The design really stretched the budget as we (client & I) had intended, in order to get the best from their dollars. They decided to re-list the house for a couple of months before conceding & digging their heels in doing the reno...it sold in 3 days after re-listing! (so hang in there).

BrightonQLD
6 posts
31 Jul 2013 9:17AM
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No not rude Sailhack and your post above is food for thought.

I've been tempted to do a quick & dirty reno downstairs to finish - get a builder to wack into it, convert laundry (already has toilet) into larger 2nd bathroom plus laundry, create a new bedroom or two (wouldn't be legal height though) and finish it all nicely.

Could be done for 30k I reckon as a minimum.

Then I would need to make that back again just to break even.

So far I'm leaning towards finding that buyer who wants to do it themselves to their own configuration.

Your place looks great by the way, I like the design and colours.

Ian K
WA, 4170 posts
31 Jul 2013 9:42AM
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[br] Watch kites go by while BBQing on your front deck. Catch amazing sunrises every morning.




The reality is this is a dream. An ocean view can add 25 to 30% to the house price but the buyer will be too busy paying off the mortgage to scratch themselves. BBQ ing on the front deck or cleaning salt spray off the windows so you can actually see out of them? Once a year maybe. Loss of habitat is a bigger threat than global warming. Deep in the suburbs it isn't too bad, there's usually enough trees for the cockatoos. But where do the sea eagles perch? The unique sea side environment gets hammered to preserve the dollar value of a view that is rarely looked at.

Lord Howe Island is an interesting contrast. The settlement houses 350 permanent residents and 400 tourists yet you can barely see a structure from any of the nearby beaches. Tourists paying top dollar don't have ocean views from the front decks. So why are the trees still standing? No real estate market is the main reason. Property is inherited.

And the ironic thing is, if it wasn't for terrestrial vegetation the oceans wouldn't be blue.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
31 Jul 2013 12:51PM
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Good point Ian and I agree with your comments re; over-developing our coastlines. The Vic coastline is heavily protected from development through planning controls. There's limited access to the coastline from where I live in both directions of over 50kms, where development won't be allowed so I guess my views on the subject are a bit biased as I think that there should be some form of sensible development allowed (although that opens it up for abuse by big developers, which has been proven in the past).

We're lucky to have an ocean view from our home, and regardless of how anyone spins it - there's nothing quite as calming as sitting in your own home or on your balcony & looking out to the ocean on a sunrise (or sunset for those in the West). Rural land owners get a similar buzz from their rural views, and I've been to many homes with mountain views that just give you an amazing sense of calm (I've also experienced a combination of all 3 & they are views to drool over!). I haven't lived in high-density 'suburbia', but have lived in urban areas where I get a constant feeling of claustrophobia.

Funnily enough - we bought our home without an ocean view in mind. It sold us on the fact that there is a large lawn area across the road that we could wander across to & relax (also provides a relaxing aspect from our living area). Our next-door neighbour (elderly couple that sold us the house) when asked why they kept their house (set back on the block & without view) and not swapped over stated "If I want to look at the ocean, I go for a walk across the road - why would I want to see it from my house?!"

BrightonQLD
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31 Jul 2013 11:53AM
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I must have been 'living the dream' then Ian because I've had many a great weekend BBQ on the deck. The only problem with watching the kites from your deck is wanting to be out there. The view across to Moreton Island always changes, it's different from day to day. That's what keeps it interesting.

Sunrises are a morning ritual almost, I have a toddler so we're up before dawn every morning. He goes out on the deck (& we follow) to see the "sunset" probably 3 or 4 mornings a week.

We put in hidden roll-out screens so that the 6 panel french doors are fully screened. For the summer 4-5 months of the year we don't close the french doors, only the screens. So the house is very indoor/outdoor - and salt on the glass hasn't really been a problem. Maybe because it's bay, not surf, there's less salt in the air?

It sounds like you're talking of a particular place or a particular experience. We're bayside so maybe that's a bit different. There's big natural areas around to the north and south of our location with Boondall wetlands, Tinchi Tamba, and the Pine river reserve.

FormulaNova
WA, 15105 posts
31 Jul 2013 11:57AM
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Sailhack said..

Funnily enough - we bought our home without an ocean view in mind. It sold us on the fact that there is a large lawn area across the road that we could wander across to & relax (also provides a relaxing aspect from our living area). Our next-door neighbour (elderly couple that sold us the house) when asked why they kept their house (set back on the block & without view) and not swapped over stated "If I want to look at the ocean, I go for a walk across the road - why would I want to see it from my house?!"



I had an elderly aunt who had magnificent views of the ocean off of Kiama in NSW, and from another room she had a view of the local park. She preferred the park by far as living with views of the ocean for so long was so boring that at least the park had some activity!

She could never understand why people would pay good money to see a boring view of the ocean.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
31 Jul 2013 2:07PM
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Shortly after building a second storey on our place my aunty brought my grandmother around for a visit. She walked to the front windows (ocean view) and made the comment "that's nice"... showing her around, she looked out our back window and straight away was blown away - she commented "wow, look at all the rooftops you can see!" My aunty simply said "your windows need cleaning".

stamp
QLD, 2800 posts
31 Jul 2013 2:12PM
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buy some spray cans and put some art on the front fence...
just kidding, good luck with it. hope you find someone soon

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
31 Jul 2013 2:15PM
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wheres ziggy when you need him?!?! hes a homeless millionaire god damnit i could make 2k$!!

Ian K
WA, 4170 posts
31 Jul 2013 5:29PM
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Sailhack said..

Funnily enough - we bought our home without an ocean view in mind. It sold us on the fact that there is a large lawn area across the road that we could wander across to & relax (also provides a relaxing aspect from our living area). Our next-door neighbour (elderly couple that sold us the house) when asked why they kept their house (set back on the block & without view) and not swapped over stated "If I want to look at the ocean, I go for a walk across the road - why would I want to see it from my house?!"



I had an elderly aunt who had magnificent views of the ocean off of Kiama in NSW, and from another room she had a view of the local park. She preferred the park by far as living with views of the ocean for so long was so boring that at least the park had some activity!

She could never understand why people would pay good money to see a boring view of the ocean.



I have a theory. It's a relic instinct. We are an ape from the savanna. Our ancestors could only afford to relax when we could see the "all clear" horizon to horizon. The forest was not a place for the feint hearted. Only entered when hunting for protein. But one had to be on full alert, the hunter could become the hunted. A panoramic beach view was good. Reduces the chance of the neighbouring tribe arriving unseen in a dugout canoe, taking off with the women and children and your head on a stick.

There's now too many people on the planet for us all to live in a clearing. The earth's population has doubled since I was was a boy. Re-adjust your instinctive comfort zone to 2013, replace that ocean view with a couple of banksias in the front yard, learn to relax with the black cockatoos.

d1
WA, 304 posts
31 Jul 2013 8:15PM
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I have a theory. It's a relic instinct. We are an ape from the savanna. Our ancestors could only afford to relax when we could see the "all clear" horizon to horizon. The forest was not a place for the feint hearted. Only entered when hunting for protein. But one had to be on full alert, the hunter could become the hunted. A panoramic beach view was good. Reduces the chance of the neighbouring tribe arriving unseen in a dugout canoe, taking off with the women and children and your head on a stick.


I assume you have read "The Naked Ape"? Evolutionary psychology is so cool to extrapolate on, e.g. Carl Sagan's view on US footy/Rugby/AFL : "The hunters of two stone-age tribes chasing a small bouncing buck. Women and children line up both sides of the canyon to see which tribe wins"...

BrightonQLD - I really like what you've done to the house and the location is fantastic. If we were in QLD, we'd certainly go for a looksee. A view like that with access to the beach has been a lifelong dream (and very unaffordable in Perth)...

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
31 Jul 2013 8:27PM
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You maybe better off getting yourself a real estate agent who knows how to sell ice to the eskimos and save your 2k.

Rattlehead
QLD, 555 posts
31 Jul 2013 10:51PM
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I think I know the poster , and I defiantly know the house , I live a few streets away . The asking price is right on the money for the location of this house, this place is only a couple of houses from the water. Good luck with the sale .

BrightonQLD
6 posts
1 Aug 2013 6:10AM
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Thanks Rattlehead. This is how it looked 2 1/2 years ago. Been a fair bit of work in that time.


Simondo
VIC, 8025 posts
1 Aug 2013 7:48PM
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Sailhack said..

Nice looking pad, but I'm guessing that with only 1 bathroom and no lockable garage...near twice the median price for the area - it hasn't quite got the bang that the buyers are looking for?

Very nice detail though - I hope you get a buyer soon.


Agree Mac!

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