Identity Cards

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if you were to take a look across the English Channel from the Continent it might

seem a little strange that the UK does not have a national ID card system in place.

After all, citizens from 11 out of the 15 nations of the European Union carry ID

cards as a part of everyday life.



Click here to see which country does what

In Belgium ID cards have been in use since 1919, and in France, where it is not

even compulsory to carry them more than 90% of people do anyway, their

usefulness making them almost indispensable.


But putting Europe to one side, countries such as Japan feel no need to use ID

cards, while Australia and New Zealand both came close to introducing them in the

1980s and 1990s, but the politicians backed off after strong public protests.



Not even the genuine fear of terrorism after the horrors of the 11 September

attacks have convinced politicians in the US that they need to curb their devotion

to privacy and personal freedom to bring in what Republicans and Democrats alike

would see as an unacceptable infringement on the rights of the individual.



Carrying the card

Where different countries have opted to carry a card it can often be put down to

one of the following reasons.


Firstly an ID card is often seen as a useful document to the authorities in countries

where war, state repression, or military rule is taking place. In that case they take

the role of an internal passport.



It was while facing the nightmare of the Second World War that the UK last had a


national ID card system, which was scrapped by 1952.



Secondly, they are useful in enabling citizens to access government services. This

is the reason why cards have become so ingrained across much of Europe.

In EU countries that have ID card schemes they can be used for cross border

travel to other states within the Union.



Card curbs

But even in nations where cards have been issued by enthusiastic politicians strict

limits have still been put in place.


For example in Germany the principle of "information self-determination" saw the

federal constitutional court rule that although ID cards are in use, the public would

not be given unique identity numbers that could be accessed by all government

departments.



However even in Germany research has found that the police are more likely to

stop people from ethnic minority groups to check their ID cards than the rest of

the population.

Thus creating more potential for racial harassment and bad feeling between the police and ethnic groups.



Ultimately, whether the UK decides to go down the road of entitlement cards or a

wider national ID card system, the time involved in setting up a system for 60

million people means it will be years before it could become a reality.



International use of ID cards

ID cards in use Functions Additional information

Belgium Yes, and police can demand to see it Cards have been used since 1919,

they can be requested by government officials The card holder's blood group can

be put on the card


France Cards are used but are not compulsory, although getting by without them

can be difficult Access to health, education, voting, banks and the post office

Police are able to request identification, but not necessarily the ID card itself

Germany ID cards are compulsory, they have a PIN number as well as traditional

details Police, local government and customs The German system does not allow

government databases to share information on the card


Japan No N/A Japanese driving licences are default photo-ID

Netherlands In use, but not compulsory Work, police, government and the post

office


Portugal ID cards are compulsory here Police, private security guards, health,

education, bank and post office Both a photo and fingerprints are included on the

card


USA No N/A Driving licences are so widely used they are almost an unofficial form

of photo ID

Source: Liberty and Charter88



http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/44536/20100821/identity-cards-with-rfid-chip-on-track-in-germany.htm

Mark, I'll hold off on the thumbs...but seriously! Basically every post "Mr Mac" does is based around world conspiracies, political negativity, extreme enviromental theories, race-based guff, etc.

I would probably read some of the crap that is posted by him if there was more balance...

So here's a challenge Mr Mac, liven up & start posting on what you view as fun/lighthearted topics...please?

i dont read long posts anymore. too hard.

Most kids by the time they are 18 have a drivers liscence or a proof of identy card issued by the RTA..... so they can get into pubs!