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Info on Radar Detector - WA

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Created by GypsyDrifter > 9 months ago, 7 Mar 2013
GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
7 Mar 2013 3:48PM
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Hi Guys..
Any info on what works and what does not, would be appreciated.
But obviously I am wanting to buy a detector that works..
No Flaming please...!
Cheers

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
7 Mar 2013 4:08PM
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Jeepers Gyps, I havnt used one for ages. As soon as I got cruise control I felt that I didnt need it any more.

Uniden used to make good ones, but I recon cruise is better and cheaper option.

What car do you have?

southace
SA, 4803 posts
7 Mar 2013 6:48PM
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Most modern cars have a thing called "Cruise Control" if you set it to the speed limit you don't need a radar detector. It seems to me when I negotiate a certain high way at night .....(a high way that is notorious for car crashes and deaths.........

people that use this highway have not learnt how to use cruise control or are just complete losers with no respect for others,themselves and family's as I get continuously overtaken even nearing bends!


The short of it is mate that if you want to avoid speed cameras it means that you want to speed which means that you may shorten your life or somebody else's!

ok
NSW, 1089 posts
7 Mar 2013 7:19PM
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There illegal in nsw and the fines are massive for having them. Most of the time they will go off for every automatic door u drive past. (super annoying)
Your best off buying a slower car and trying to stick to the limit or a reasonable speed otherwise you will end up like myself on a good behaviour bond for two years which is restrictive as all ****kk

airjunkie
WA, 142 posts
7 Mar 2013 4:31PM
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. . . . this is an in depth topic. . . i'll try and be brief

I used to work in the industry - installation of Laser shifters and hard wired multi head detectors

i don't know about other states but in wa it is 90% laser in perth metro with the exception of some fixed old style radar units on traffic specific cop cars

with just a detector and not a shifter you simply do not have the warning time to react to a laser signal the old radar system used to give you heaps of warning sorry

on top of that all of the new cruise control additions like blind spot watching and distance to vehicles ahead all run on the same bandwidth as laser speed detectors so there are lots more ghost warnings and as more new cars hit the roads this will only increase


that said as of december 2012 even with firmware updates none of the current top of the line detectors were even picking up the brand new blue hand held police lasers (the ones that also take photo's) just the multinovas(poliscan)

this may have changed in the past two months

if you use it mostly outside the metro area there are all the old multinovas (radar) still in use and detectors would save your arse

the best ones we sold were the bel sti in various editions
the company has good support and you can keep updating them as new guns are brought in to use

that aside jamming is the way to go although costly it is legal in WA as long as its called something else (like shifting or parking sensors)

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
7 Mar 2013 4:32PM
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Tbh, I dont think that its a concious decision to speed, Im shocking for not checking my speed and it creeps up on me. I dont think Gyps is trying to break speed records or anything but I found the creep happens on long drives and you are concentrating on whats ahead eg roos etc.

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
7 Mar 2013 4:52PM
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airjunkie said...
that aside jamming is the way to go although costly it is legal in WA as long as its called something else (like shifting or parking sensors)


X 2.

But one night i watched a mate get pinged for speeding and he has a jammer installed. So i dont know? Time and place i guess.

Pretty hard these days with the pricks hiding behind objects catching you from behind. If they put as much effort in catching crims as they do making money, perth would be a better place to live

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
7 Mar 2013 5:09PM
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my bel sti has never let me down .

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
7 Mar 2013 5:15PM
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airjunkie said...

i don't know about other states but in wa it is 90% laser in perth metro with the exception of some fixed old style radar units on traffic specific cop cars

with just a detector and not a shifter you simply do not have the warning time to react to a laser signal

that aside jamming is the way to go although costly it is legal in WA as long as its called something else (like shifting or parking sensors)


Pretty much on the money, WA has gone mostly to laser speed detection on all the cameras. By the time you cross the beam and your detector has pinged your ticket is already in the mail (not quite but it may as well be).

Jammers don't really work either with the new blue laser thingies and if you are transmitting a signal on k-band in an attempt to jam there is no way to bluff your way out of it, your are breaking lots of laws, I think some federal communication ones in there too.

Your best bet is to go with pugwash's original post up the top.

airjunkie
WA, 142 posts
7 Mar 2013 5:17PM
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MDSXR6T said...
airjunkie said...
that aside jamming is the way to go although costly it is legal in WA as long as its called something else (like shifting or parking sensors)


X 2.

But one night i watched a mate get pinged for speeding and he has a jammer installed. So i dont know? Time and place i guess.

Pretty hard these days with the pricks hiding behind objects catching you from behind. If they put as much effort in catching crims as they do making money, perth would be a better place to live





I'm guessing that your mate had a bell three piece shifter installed ??

it is the most common one sold and installed in WA (i've installed tons of em) even their brand reps admit that they cant shift some of the guns on the market (not fast enough pulses)

the very best shifters are the ALG9 and the blinder jammers

as the laser speed guns advance they are sending out pulses millions of times a second and a lot of shifters just don't have the hardware/software to replicate this close enough to cause good interference

plus the location of the heads is everything
. . . . . a lot of cars just don't let you discretely install them in the ideal location . . . somewhere equidistant from headlight to number plate

some customers just don't want to see them and the less you can see the heads the less they work

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
7 Mar 2013 6:09PM
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it's not that hard nowadays seeing as it's either a van with a f$ckoff massive square window on the back or a x-trail . Either way it's bleeding obvious

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
7 Mar 2013 6:20PM
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doggie said...
Jeepers Gyps, I havnt used one for ages. As soon as I got cruise control I felt that I didnt need it any more.

Uniden used to make good ones, but I recon cruise is better and cheaper option.

What car do you have?



A turbo delica and a led foot
I don't ever go over by much...but travelling between Mandurah and perth alot
and knowing my luck !!!!!
No cruise control doggie, but something for me to think about...

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
7 Mar 2013 6:25PM
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airjunkie said...
. . . . this is an in depth topic. . . i'll try and be brief

I used to work in the industry - installation of Laser shifters and hard wired multi head detectors

i don't know about other states but in wa it is 90% laser in perth metro with the exception of some fixed old style radar units on traffic specific cop cars

with just a detector and not a shifter you simply do not have the warning time to react to a laser signal the old radar system used to give you heaps of warning sorry

on top of that all of the new cruise control additions like blind spot watching and distance to vehicles ahead all run on the same bandwidth as laser speed detectors so there are lots more ghost warnings and as more new cars hit the roads this will only increase


that said as of december 2012 even with firmware updates none of the current top of the line detectors were even picking up the brand new blue hand held police lasers (the ones that also take photo's) just the multinovas(poliscan)

this may have changed in the past two months

if you use it mostly outside the metro area there are all the old multinovas (radar) still in use and detectors would save your arse

the best ones we sold were the bel sti in various editions
the company has good support and you can keep updating them as new guns are brought in to use

that aside jamming is the way to go although costly it is legal in WA as long as its called something else (like shifting or parking sensors)


Thanks airjunkie..thats what I wanted to know...

Just looking for knowledge guys...!!!!

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
7 Mar 2013 6:26PM
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dusta said...
my bel sti has never let me down .



Thanks dusta....

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
7 Mar 2013 6:35PM
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doggie said...
Tbh, I dont think that its a concious decision to speed, Im shocking for not checking my speed and it creeps up on me. I dont think Gyps is trying to break speed records or anything but I found the creep happens on long drives and you are concentrating on whats ahead eg roos etc.




Yes on long drives doggie...
Can't really speed in Mandurah as alot of speed limits are 50
and I drive a diesel

I have a navman...and that has a warning when you go over the speed limit...
But even after updating the navman it still tells me that the
Perth to Bunbury Highway is 100 ks instead of 110 in places
so i don't use that...

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
7 Mar 2013 6:44PM
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dusta said...
it's not that hard nowadays seeing as it's either a van with a f$ckoff massive square window on the back or a x-trail . Either way it's bleeding obvious


Sorry but i disagree. Few years ago i would have said the same but these days they are sneaky as fk and catching you from behind.

IE on marmion ave southbound just after the tip / mindarie they position it on the island so you simply cant see the camera or van until its in your RV mirror...

They do the same on freeway south at the top end. There are limestone crossways on the island with bushes in front. Simply no chance.

Also the ***** from TEG (highway patrol etc) have been hammering freeway north in recent weeks.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
7 Mar 2013 9:01PM
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Who'd wanna live in victoria. Airport to Benalla used to pass 10+ fixed speed cameras and another 10 or more if flying out of weribee. Mostly on the back of overhanging speed signs. No warning. 2kmhs over qualifies.

That wasn't enough, now they do this too



Keaw Yed.
WA, 202 posts
7 Mar 2013 8:50PM
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Hi Gypsydrifter,

Used to sell radars in the uk and the best ones were the Beltronics detectors, not sure what camera's etc are used over here but I am sure bel will cover it. There are some ****e products out, so be careful. To make sure you are covered you will also need a "garage door opener" aka a jammer. (The work on 904nm which is what the laser guns the police use.)

The bel disty is www.neltronics.com.au/
For a jammer blinder are good www.blinder.com.au/
Or a system from www.target-automotive.nl/en/laser-target-lasertrack/ would be a good option. (This mob used to do a jammer for a bike - note sure if they still do)

Some people used to purchase one detector and two jammers (front and rear).


GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
7 Mar 2013 9:15PM
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Thanks KEAW YED
Some great info thanks guys

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
7 Mar 2013 9:16PM
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No word but wow kiteboy dave

Mark _australia
WA, 23701 posts
7 Mar 2013 9:33PM
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Oh come on Dave, what a beat-up. That is a garden variety video camera and a spotter with bino's, it is very obviously surveillance for somethign else.

I disagree with use of Mulatnova's etc but they were brought in to reduce man-hours and increase speeders detected. So to put 2 blokes watching up there I don't think it is run of the mill traffic policing, yah?

Maybe the w^nkers who feel the need to assault the camera operator cos they got a ticket for 20k's over?

Gyps, hook line and sinker does anyone believ they do that to catch speeders???

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
8 Mar 2013 7:59AM
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I know Mark, it is literally unbelievable. But true.


DISGUISED police hiding in bushes behind camouflage nets are using radar guns to nab hundreds of speeding Victorians.

And the Herald Sun has discovered they are planning to secretly aim their radars at thousands more motorists this year.

Victoria Police makes no apologies for the sneaky tactic and yesterday vowed to continue the blitzes.

www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

I like this bit though. Viccos are pretty angry about it by the sound.
A person armed with a spray can has painted a pig's head next to the word "cops" and an arrow pointing to the exact spot where police hide with their radar guns on the Black Spur section of the Maroondah Highway.

Pigs' heads and large dollar signs have also been sprayed as warning signs on both sides of the road just before the concealed speed trap.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
8 Mar 2013 11:08AM
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MDSXR6T said...


Sorry but i disagree. Few years ago i would have said the same but these days they are sneaky as fk and catching you from behind.



i'll disagree to disagree .

Mobile speed camera's are so obvious they may as well be painted bright pink .

Ados
WA, 421 posts
8 Mar 2013 11:12AM
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I live on a semi busy urban street here in WA. the speed limit is 50 Km due to built up area status. lots of families, kids etc going for walks, playing in the front yard etc. just the usual stuff that people do.

however, some, not all, inconsiderate drivers think my street is a racing track and are clearly oblivious to the potential danger to pedestrians, other drivers and themselves.

A quick call to the local member of parliament resulted in a 7 day blitz on speeding. after that send days, a mult-inova every noew and then. We have noticed a considerable slowing down of cars down the street.

Some people have zero regard for others and it shts me.

if you speed, you deserve to get caught. Cruise control or even just good old personal control such as a brake etc.


airjunkie
WA, 142 posts
8 Mar 2013 8:06PM
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dusta said...
MDSXR6T said...


Sorry but i disagree. Few years ago i would have said the same but these days they are sneaky as fk and catching you from behind.



i'll disagree to disagree .

Mobile speed camera's are so obvious they may as well be painted bright pink .


for the majority of sped cameras around perth they are in regular spots and very visible most people do there jobs just well enough to get paid but some take it to another level. . . they regularly have rear facing cameras on the reid highway hidden in the bushes totally out of sight and with the vehicle totally hidden as well you can only just see them when travelling in the other direction - one example, they do this sneaky stuff all over perth

plus dusta your saying that you haven't seen any of these hidden rear facing cameras at all around perth . . . could that be because they are hidden maybe ??
surely this is a remote possibility

Ados i can totally see your point about speeding in your street or in suburbia in general im totally against it, but in my opinion - freeways and highways ten or fifteen km's over when there is little traffic about is another story

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
8 Mar 2013 11:32PM
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airjunkie said...


plus dusta your saying that you haven't seen any of these hidden rear facing cameras at all around perth . . . could that be because they are hidden maybe ??
surely this is a remote possibility



never said that . the rear facing cameras still need to be in/setup next to a f%ckoff big white van or a nissan x-trail or something else that sticks out like dogs nuts .

Really not that hard

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
9 Mar 2013 12:07AM
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Dusta,

I'll grab some pics over the weekend of their usual haunts up near me (alkimos / mindarie).

You seriously have no idea they are there.

Ados
WA, 421 posts
9 Mar 2013 11:01AM
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I understand where you are coming from AJ. The way I look at it, apart from a safety perspective, is - why give them my hard earned cash if I just have to slow down and be aware of the speed limits. also, as a one income family, I really cant afford speeding fines so I am extra careful.

Be aware that this is just my view but I feel it is a sensible one.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
9 Mar 2013 5:03PM
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You could always consider a speeding fine one of the few voluntary taxes. Even if you argue that it is purely revenue raising and has no benefit to road trauma, don't speed, don't pay. Doesn't get any easier.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
14 Jun 2013 2:37PM
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MDSXR6T said..

Dusta,

I'll grab some pics over the weekend of their usual haunts up near me (alkimos / mindarie).

You seriously have no idea they are there.


are these spots that hidden that you can't find em MDSXR6T ????



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