https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B2CFo8f0zV_bOTc1YTliZDktODNiMi00MDQzLWFiYmMtNTA4YzkyODNlYjZk&hl=en_GB
“There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted.”
Arthur Schopenhauer
(1788–1860)
Good summary of the madness currently coming from the Socialists in this country.
The usual suspects are due to chime in anytime... Logman???
"Is this really whats happening"
........as in...........
Are we being totally conned with this global warming, rising sea levels, climate change, carbon pollution propaganda?
All the evidence suggests it so we would have to say it is fact.
HANG ON!! You can't use that line of reasoning. The global warmists are already using it.
so we have global warming or whatever alarmists and sceptics, both camps have big name people backing, both can produce all kinds of impressive scientific data, both have 'vested' interests.
who's right, whats the truth, who can we really trust?
Seems to me the alarmists have the "Vested Interests" and if the alarmists had not come along blowing their trumpets, there would be no sceptics.
If you call a reluctance to surrender personal freedoms to an unelected global committee a "Vested Interest", then yes, I as a sceptic have an opposing view to the alarmists motivated by a "Vested Interest".
What is said in Cassa's link is quoting graphs and records that if false, would be easily debunked.
The global warming/climate change agenda has lost all credibility with the leaked emails etc.
As quoted:-“There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted.”
Arthur Schopenhauer
(1788–1860).......................or
Repeat a lie often enough and people will eventually accept it as truth.
Checked the link, no proof there...
hew, i'll check it out.how about some links there
they are pacific counter agruments?yes no
this might be of interest
www.astronomynotes.com/solarsys/s11b.htm
read the comments to to each paper too
The Lavoisier Group is a global warming skeptic organisation, based in Australia. It argues that the evidence for global warming is based on inexact science and that any policy responses, such as signing the Kyoto Protocol, would be too expensive for Australia's industry.
The group is closely associated with the Australian mining industry, and was founded in 2000 by Ray Evans, then an executive at Western Mining Corporation (WMC), who was also involved in founding the HR Nicholls Society and the Bennelong Society. Hugh Morgan, former WMC boss and head of the Business Council of Australia until 2005, delivered the group's inaugural speech.
President: Peter Walsh, former Finance Minister
Vice President: Ian Webber, Director of WMC Resources
Secretary: Ray Evans, President of the HR Nicholls Society, ex-WMC [3]
Treasurer: Harold Clough AO, IPA board member and Director of Clough Group, a mining and resource service company.
Robert Foster
Bruce Kean, Chairman of Committee for Economic Development of Australia [4]
Peter Murray, coal industry consultant
A very small Dad's Army of rich old miners who go round talking up the climate skeptic line to oldies at rotary and probus clubs.
Do you think they are in the same ballpark as the scientific consensus of hundreds of peak scientific bodies around the world?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
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A carbon tax that corrects prices today to avoid a future welfare loss, where we do not want today's generation to be worse off,
Q.1 Do we need to find and develop other scources of energy??
A. I think so.
Q.2 Do we need to find better ways to deal with our waste and pollutants??
A. I think so.
Q.3 Is CO2 a pollutant??
A. I don't think so.
Q.4 Do we need a "carbon tax" to achieve outcomes for Q.1 & 2.
A. I don't think so.
