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Created by GypsyDrifter > 9 months ago, 22 Apr 2013
GypsyDrifter

GypsyDrifter

WA, 2371 posts
22 Apr 2013 2:42PM
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Licence this Licence that...
Bl@@dy stuffing ell...

4 boats
4 trailers
1 bike
5 cars
2 drivers
2 fishing
2 skippers

and I just found out if I want a 2.7 tender with an outboard on it..
I have to licence that too....

I think I will move, too,??? Some where else
Sodding Western Australia

Sorry vent over ...and please I know we have a Sh@te load of toys

FlySurfer

FlySurfer

NSW, 4460 posts
22 Apr 2013 4:52PM
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It's the same all over Australia.

UK driving license: GBP 24 lasts 70 years.
Trailers don't need.
Boats don't need.

Same pretty much everywhere else too.

Drink some tap water, you'll feel better.

GypsyDrifter

GypsyDrifter

WA, 2371 posts
22 Apr 2013 3:13PM
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FlySurfer said...
It's the same all over Australia.

UK driving license: GBP 24 lasts 70 years.
Trailers don't need.
Boats don't need.

Same pretty much everywhere else too.

Drink some tap water, you'll feel better.



arrrr.. FlyerSurfer...I get my drinking water off a farm north of Perth
Thats why I am so well adjusted

UK...well thats going a bit far... they have snow and wet weather
I'm allergic to bad weather


Also you have to have a licence for a snake on a kayak or canoe "what the"

jbshack

jbshack

WA, 6913 posts
22 Apr 2013 3:25PM
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Also you have to have a licence for a snake on a kayak or canoe "what the"


Im not sure thats right. A boat only needs to be licensed if its primary source of propulsion is a motor. I would have thought a Kayak would be exempt..


EDIT
Actually i just double checked, and the rule is the moment you put a motor (even electric) on a kayak it must be registered. That is just stupid

Sailhack

Sailhack

VIC, 5000 posts
22 Apr 2013 8:34PM
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You could move to Vic. .. but those numbers would probably double.

Chris6791

Chris6791

WA, 3271 posts
22 Apr 2013 7:32PM
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jbshack said...

Also you have to have a licence for a snake on a kayak or canoe "what the"


Im not sure thats right. A boat only needs to be licensed if its primary source of propulsion is a motor. I would have thought a Kayak would be exempt..


EDIT
Actually i just double checked, and the rule is the moment you put a motor (even electric) on a kayak it must be registered. That is just stupid


I think it goes so far as to say if it is 'capable' of being powered it needs a license, technically it not matter whether your kayak actually has an electric motor fitted or not. Though you would have to be an arse to enforce that law to the letter on a kayak or canoe.

jbshack

jbshack

WA, 6913 posts
22 Apr 2013 7:53PM
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Chris6791 said...
jbshack said...

Also you have to have a licence for a snake on a kayak or canoe "what the"


Im not sure thats right. A boat only needs to be licensed if its primary source of propulsion is a motor. I would have thought a Kayak would be exempt..


EDIT
Actually i just double checked, and the rule is the moment you put a motor (even electric) on a kayak it must be registered. That is just stupid


I think it goes so far as to say if it is 'capable' of being powered it needs a license, technically it not matter whether your kayak actually has an electric motor fitted or not. Though you would have to be an arse to enforce that law to the letter on a kayak or canoe.


Thats correct. If its primary power is to be a motor then it must be registered. SO if you have a dinghy and just want to row it too bad. It must be registered. A kayak though is powered by paddle, but stick a motor on and bingo, give them some more money..[}:)]

smicko

smicko

WA, 2503 posts
22 Apr 2013 8:07PM
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That sucks, I though my chully bun was exempt from rego due to being under 3.1m and running a 5hp. It seems not
www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/19093.asp
Bloody pirates.

myusernam

myusernam

QLD, 6160 posts
22 Apr 2013 10:16PM
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FlySurfer said...
It's the same all over Australia.

UK driving license: GBP 24 lasts 70 years.
Trailers don't need.
Boats don't need.

Same pretty much everywhere else too.

Drink some tap water, you'll feel better.


oh no it isn't!
NT. no boat license, so no alchohol limit whilst driving boat.
Can drive car with beer in hand, so long as you are below limit (now .05 but was .08) and not within x distance of pub

thePup

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22 Apr 2013 8:17PM
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GypsyDrifter said...

Licence this Licence that...
Bl@@dy stuffing ell...

4 boats
4 trailers
1 bike
5 cars
2 drivers
2 fishing
2 skippers

and I just found out if I want a 2.7 tender with an outboard on it..
I have to licence that too....

I think I will move, too,??? Some where else
Sodding Western Australia

Sorry vent over ...and please I know we have a Sh@te load of toys


Good God Gyps I am impressed with that Harem

GypsyDrifter

GypsyDrifter

WA, 2371 posts
22 Apr 2013 8:36PM
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^^^^^ but not the bill for it all + insurance.

Ok well if they are so out to rob us blind....us just wanting to have a quite fish!

Blooming well license the push bikes..licence the gophers..licence the skateboarders, I say licence the dogs....licence the cats (oh yer they already do that )

I'm staring to drown in thoughts of all the things we need a licence for...
even s e x it's called a marriage licence

landyacht

landyacht

WA, 5921 posts
22 Apr 2013 8:54PM
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it gets worse GD, in WA if it has an engine mount it must be registered for use in surveyed?waters but in order to register it you need to supply engine details including a serial number, which must be sighted to fill out the paperwork. so if your new kayak has a mount and you have no engine its gonna get hard.
I turned up for registration with a yamaha 6hp engine block only ,but since it had a serial number on they reluctently passed it

jbshack

jbshack

WA, 6913 posts
22 Apr 2013 9:06PM
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landyacht said...
it gets worse GD, in WA if it has an engine mount it must be registered for use in surveyed?waters but in order to register it you need to supply engine details including a serial number, which must be sighted to fill out the paperwork. so if your new kayak has a mount and you have no engine its gonna get hard.
I turned up for registration with a yamaha 6hp engine block only ,but since it had a serial number on they reluctently passed it


When HIN certificates first came out we couldn't complete a Hin registration with out a engine number. SO when i pointed out it didn't have a serial number or any motor But the law is it must be registered they soon changed the ruling

slammin

slammin

QLD, 998 posts
22 Apr 2013 11:09PM
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myusernam said...
FlySurfer said...
It's the same all over Australia.

UK driving license: GBP 24 lasts 70 years.
Trailers don't need.
Boats don't need.

Same pretty much everywhere else too.

Drink some tap water, you'll feel better.


oh no it isn't!
NT. no boat license, so no alchohol limit whilst driving boat.
Can drive car with beer in hand, so long as you are below limit (now .05 but was .08) and not within x distance of pub



You cannot operate a vessel or vehicle while over 0.05 BAV in the NT, stated but perhaps not clearly enough in the safety reg's and guide. It is the same rule which means that you can get done for riding a pushbike while drunk or even a wheelchair, mob' scooter.

Mr Hodges who admitted consuming 10 large glasses of wine, recorded a blood-alcohol reading of 0.209.
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He had "taken offence" at some police allegations particularly the categorisation of his scooter as a vehicle, saying "on this occasion, the wheelchair was my legs [and] as my legs, it was the only way I could get home".

Mr Hodges was disqualified from driving for 18 months and sentenced to four months in jail, suspended for two years.

Read more: www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/elderly-man-nabbed-drink-driving-on-motorised-wheelchair-20130416-2hx8b.html


I don't have time to find the relevent NT News stories but they're regular enough.

That all being said, you can most likely get away with it because there are so few water police BUT if you do get breathalysed while operate a vessel you will be charged, even like a bloke who was done while still at the ramp. However you can allow your 6year old to drive your unregistered 800hp big white boat while supervised. Ah the NT I luv it.

Now back to the OP. I feel for the rego/license hassles but try the same game when all your toys are in different states. Bring on the real federation and stop this state based rubbish.

myusernam

myusernam

QLD, 6160 posts
23 Apr 2013 12:13AM
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slammin said...
myusernam said...
FlySurfer said...
It's the same all over Australia.

UK driving license: GBP 24 lasts 70 years.
Trailers don't need.
Boats don't need.

Same pretty much everywhere else too.

Drink some tap water, you'll feel better.


oh no it isn't!
NT. no boat license, so no alchohol limit whilst driving boat.
Can drive car with beer in hand, so long as you are below limit (now .05 but was .08) and not within x distance of pub



You cannot operate a vessel or vehicle while over 0.05 BAV in the NT, stated but perhaps not clearly enough in the safety reg's and guide. It is the same rule which means that you can get done for riding a pushbike while drunk or even a wheelchair, mob' scooter.

Mr Hodges who admitted consuming 10 large glasses of wine, recorded a blood-alcohol reading of 0.209.
Advertisement

He had "taken offence" at some police allegations particularly the categorisation of his scooter as a vehicle, saying "on this occasion, the wheelchair was my legs [and] as my legs, it was the only way I could get home".

Mr Hodges was disqualified from driving for 18 months and sentenced to four months in jail, suspended for two years.

Read more: www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/elderly-man-nabbed-drink-driving-on-motorised-wheelchair-20130416-2hx8b.html


I don't have time to find the relevent NT News stories but they're regular enough.

That all being said, you can most likely get away with it because there are so few water police BUT if you do get breathalysed while operate a vessel you will be charged, even like a bloke who was done while still at the ramp. However you can allow your 6year old to drive your unregistered 800hp big white boat while supervised. Ah the NT I luv it.

Now back to the OP. I feel for the rego/license hassles but try the same game when all your toys are in different states. Bring on the real federation and stop this state based rubbish.


i suspected I might have been speaking shxt! oh well, got away with it then!

slammin

slammin

QLD, 998 posts
23 Apr 2013 5:01PM
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myusernam said...
i suspected I might have been speaking shxt! oh well, got away with it then!


No worries you'd fit in like a glove in the NT!!

cammd

cammd

QLD, 4495 posts
23 Apr 2013 6:01PM
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All the license requirements just to start using the toys. Once you start using then comes the fines for not using them right.

beastsurf

beastsurf

WA, 902 posts
24 Apr 2013 3:27PM
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I received a letter from the department of transport that as part of my mooring license I now have to pay a certified inspector to make sure the mooring is up to scratch. The crew at the DOT office must have shares with the listed contractors I reckon.

More cash out.

FlySurfer

FlySurfer

NSW, 4460 posts
24 Apr 2013 9:26PM
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Fine here fine there... disobeyed council directive $130, went 2kms over tortoise speed $160 ... just the price of living in a fine country.

fingerbone

fingerbone

NSW, 921 posts
24 Apr 2013 9:37PM
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get a pushbike with a motor on it...they can do 80 klm / hr and no licence needed

sn

sn

WA, 2775 posts
24 Apr 2013 7:54PM
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fingerbone said...get a pushbike with a motor on it...they can do 80 klm / hr and no licence needed


In NSW, any device with a motor must be registered for use on a road or road related area.
They are not permitted on footpaths, parks, public areas and roads etc. unless specifically exempt.
If your motorised pushy has an engine of more than 200 watts output- it is not exempt and will need to be licenced.
If it can do 80k's it will most likely not comply........

In W.A., power assist of more than 200 watts will require licencing, and riders must be at least 16 years old to use power assist.

I have heard on the grapevine, that the output is going to be raised to 250watts, no idea when though.

stephen

choco

choco

SA, 4186 posts
24 Apr 2013 10:47PM
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GypsyDrifter said...

Licence this Licence that...
Bl@@dy stuffing ell...

4 boats
4 trailers
1 bike
5 cars
2 drivers
2 fishing
2 skippers

and I just found out if I want a 2.7 tender with an outboard on it..
I have to licence that too....

I think I will move, too,??? Some where else
Sodding Western Australia

Sorry vent over ...and please I know we have a Sh@te load of toys


register one trailer and just swap the number plates onto another one if you want to use it, guy at works been doing it for years he's got 3 car trailers and only one is registered but uses them all by swapping the number plates after all a trailer is a trailer

GypsyDrifter

GypsyDrifter

WA, 2371 posts
24 Apr 2013 11:36PM
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^^^ could do...but do you recon the fisheries boys look at vin numbers on trailers.
I can't lie to save my life....

GypsyDrifter

GypsyDrifter

WA, 2371 posts
24 Apr 2013 11:44PM
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beastsurf said...
I received a letter from the department of transport that as part of my mooring license I now have to pay a certified inspector to make sure the mooring is up to scratch. The crew at the DOT office must have shares with the listed contractors I reckon.

More cash out.


This makes me think...hmm
when we bought this home we had the option to buy the jetty that the guy from this house owned....
we didn't as the water (boat ramp) is 2 houses away and you can drop your boat in and drive the car trailer home

I wonder what that license would have cost me....as I really nearly bought the jetty

cisco

cisco

QLD, 12365 posts
25 Apr 2013 1:54AM
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GypsyDrifter said...

I wonder what that license would have cost me....as I really nearly bought the jetty



Not sure if you had a temporary lapse of sanity or insanity.

Could you have charged rent on the jetty if you bought it??


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