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New Down Under - opinions?

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Created by Sailhack > 9 months ago, 30 Jul 2012
Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
30 Jul 2012 5:25PM
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Prob only for us oldies, but seeing that most of us probably heard about the legal case against Men at Work from the Kookaburra song artist (not that I followed the case, but from what I read it was pretty dodgy). Colin Hay has just re-released it with a 'slight' change to the flute riff. Timed it to align with the Olympic Games opening ceremony.

http://blogs.abc.net.au/sa/2012/07/colin-hay-and-down-under-2012.html

My 2 cents, still enjoy the song but miss those few high notes. Although it's only a slight change, it might take a while to get used to. I understand & I'm glad they re-recorded it though.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
30 Jul 2012 3:40PM
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If thats all they had to change the whole case is boolcrap imo.

Men at Work are not the only ones to have done it, in fact there is a very recent one from an Australian artist who I will not name that uses another nursery rhyme at the start of his song and its much more clear than that one.

And wasnt it only found out after the question had been raised on Specs and Specks? If that question wasnt asked on the TV show would the court case still have gone ahead? I wouldnt think so.

I think Men at Work were unfairly drilled on that!

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
30 Jul 2012 6:24PM
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Didnt the flute player die also?

Perhaps it's a sign of respect?

Scotty88
4214 posts
30 Jul 2012 4:44PM
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CMC said...

Didnt the flute player die also?

Perhaps it's a sign of respect?


His name was Greg Ham and he died within past 2 months.
To be honest, I could never identify the similarity between the flute in Down Under and that farkin kookabarra song/rhyme wtf.

@doggie, yeh you're right about Spicks and Specks and hope those ****s are feeling guilty with digging that up - pr1cks.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
30 Jul 2012 4:47PM
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CMC said...

Didnt the flute player die also?

Perhaps it's a sign of respect?


He was the one that wrote it I think, died a broken man from what the other band members said.

Simondo
VIC, 8025 posts
30 Jul 2012 8:21PM
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The girl who wrote the Kokaburra tune has actually passed away... Not sure on full details, but it was part of a Girl Guide competition I think... And today, the royalties rest with a company... not with the girl, or her family... Pretty certain the company is not part of the family, and not part of the Scout Association / Guide Association either.

So "The Greedy Company" somehow owns the rights to the Kookaburra song. The Company and it representatives are another case of greedy farkers gone wrong!

Ended up costing the life of a good bloke who enjoyed living in Carlton Victoria, enjoyed teaching people music...

"The Greedy Company" just wanted more money...

Simondo
VIC, 8025 posts
30 Jul 2012 8:24PM
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Here's a run down.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kookaburra(song)

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
30 Jul 2012 8:57PM
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The guy who was running Larrikin Music Publishing "retired" after the court case.

He must be happy with the outcome and prob. made enough money out of it?
I know I couldn't sleep at night..

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
30 Jul 2012 10:23PM
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Simondo said...

The girl who wrote the Kokaburra tune has actually passed away... Not sure on full details, but it was part of a Girl Guide competition I think... And today, the royalties rest with a company... not with the girl, or her family... Pretty certain the company is not part of the family, and not part of the Scout Association / Guide Association either.

So "The Greedy Company" somehow owns the rights to the Kookaburra song. The Company and it representatives are another case of greedy farkers gone wrong!

Ended up costing the life of a good bloke who enjoyed living in Carlton Victoria, enjoyed teaching people music...

"The Greedy Company" just wanted more money...



Yeh that's what I heard.

To be honest I can't notice the similarity...
Every song on the radio today sounds the same, surprised it isn't lawsuit galore.

And from what I read Greg Ham was devastated by the decision. Saying he'll be remembered for plagiarism etc. Don't think that's true though. Everyone knows his tune and loves it!

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
31 Jul 2012 10:03AM
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It's ok when it's the same label though...?



or the same artist...?



but these guys are onto it (wonder why they haven't been sued by...everyone!?)

choco
SA, 4187 posts
31 Jul 2012 10:09AM
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pierrec45 said...

The guy who was running Larrikin Music Publishing "retired" after the court case.

He must be happy with the outcome and prob. made enough money out of it?
I know I couldn't sleep at night..


Larrikin Music only purchased the copyright to the song for fark all so they could make some quick cash by suing Men at Work

Scotty88
4214 posts
31 Jul 2012 8:47AM
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Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
31 Jul 2012 11:51AM
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Scotty88 said...

Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.


Only the "kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..." bit.

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
31 Jul 2012 9:57AM
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Sailhack said...

Scotty88 said...

Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.


Only the "kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..." bit.


It's there. Just have to have a damn good ear to hear it. Must say that I didn't pick it up until it was pointed out.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
31 Jul 2012 10:14AM
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Pitbull said...

Sailhack said...

Scotty88 said...

Can anybody see a similarity between the flute and the kookaburra song ?
Not me.


Only the "kookaburra sits in the old gum tree..." bit.


It's there. Just have to have a damn good ear to hear it. Must say that I didn't pick it up until it was pointed out.


Same, I was watching Spicks and Specks when the question came up. The thing is the same could be said for alot of songs, I want to mention one but I dont want it to go public so I wont say what song it is.

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
31 Jul 2012 10:20AM
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Was it that Cold Play/Joe Satriani one?

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
31 Jul 2012 10:28AM
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Pitbull said...

Was it that Cold Play/Joe Satriani one?


Na Im just trying to remember the song now its gone from my head

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
31 Jul 2012 5:51PM
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The Axis of Awesome was unreal That is almost like hearing your life music all in 10 minutes

Loved it..



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