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Poll - Which Japanese Car Maker is Best?

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Created by ikw777 > 9 months ago, 2 Mar 2013
ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
2 Mar 2013 8:16PM
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Toyota, Subaru, Nissan, Mitsubishi. (edit: mustn't forget Mazda)

My vote: NISSAN.

dan berry
WA, 2562 posts
2 Mar 2013 6:20PM
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Toyota

dinsdale
WA, 1227 posts
2 Mar 2013 6:29PM
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Subaru

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
2 Mar 2013 8:32PM
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I might be wrong but I think Nissan is half french (renault)

actually just checked, Renault owns 44% of Nissan

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
2 Mar 2013 8:40PM
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Nissan's are great.

thePup
13831 posts
2 Mar 2013 6:42PM
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Lexus

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
2 Mar 2013 8:46PM
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honda and toyota

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
2 Mar 2013 9:54PM
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Infiniti

CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
2 Mar 2013 9:54PM
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Mazda

neilpete
WA, 184 posts
2 Mar 2013 7:08PM
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That's the GTR definitely.

Nissan it is.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
2 Mar 2013 9:14PM
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thePup said...
Lexus



Lexus = Toyota

Ian K
WA, 4170 posts
2 Mar 2013 7:37PM
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Nissan (Renault)



I've heard Suzukis are pretty good.

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
2 Mar 2013 7:49PM
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neilpete said...
That's the GTR definitely.

Nissan it is.


Yep!

The 2012 'R offers, IMO, the best value for money for any performance car around and the new pulsar is supposedly excellent.

Toyos are probably more reliable but are soul less to drive

Rex
WA, 949 posts
2 Mar 2013 7:51PM
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Best by which measure? most Japanese cars have assembly plants in other countries, so are you talking about assembled in Japan or global products?

Ian K
WA, 4170 posts
2 Mar 2013 8:02PM
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Rex said...
Best by which measure? most Japanese cars have assembly plants in other countries, so are you talking about assembled in Japan or global products?


Most car companies do that but you'd hope they specify that the factories run as they would if on home soil. Our Nissan is made in Thailand - still consider it a Nissan made in the Japanese style though.

thePup
13831 posts
2 Mar 2013 8:12PM
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ikw777 said...
thePup said...
Lexus



Lexus = Toyota


yep that's right

youngbull
QLD, 826 posts
2 Mar 2013 10:14PM
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Nissan - only for the RB30 engine
Toyota for everything else

GTR's are crud - a certain race team I know owns a few and after spending $250k on 1 it still drives no better than a race ford or holden just with more power. Gearboxes cannot handle the power and the electrical system is way overcomplicated to get the consumer to just spend more money.

I will give it to Nissan in a sense that they manage to keep the hoon market alive with factory cars 180sx/silvia/skyline alongside Honda (cannon exhaust - dropped on their guts, sounding like multiple wet farts screaming along)

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
2 Mar 2013 10:31PM
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Every Toyota I've driven felt weird, remote and dead. Landcruisers are good though.

kk
WA, 953 posts
2 Mar 2013 8:31PM
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Does anyone really care? It's just opinions, usually a persons opinion is trying to reinforce a previous decision....... Be it good or bad.

It's a bit like, get a tattoo they are great. Why? Because I have one......

Mark _australia
WA, 23704 posts
2 Mar 2013 9:32PM
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youngbull said...

GTR's are crud - a certain race team I know owns a few and after spending $250k on 1 it still drives no better than a race ford or holden just with more power. Gearboxes cannot handle the power and the electrical system is way overcomplicated to get the consumer to just spend more money.



ya fkn what now?

Maybe they had holden and ford v8 "mechanics" work on it and they can't understand real EFI, forced induction or centre diffs? Gearboxes are good for 800hP but you can't drop clutch like a 2wd cos they do have some traction and will fk drivetrains if not treated right.

a partly prepped GTR will slay fully prepped GpA Commonwhore and Foulcans any day and that is why they were banned - embarrassment factor

Buster fin
WA, 2599 posts
2 Mar 2013 10:08PM
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They're all good, but I value safety-reliability-practicality-performance over styling-fashion-tough guy posing-price and put my name to Toyota.

youngbull
QLD, 826 posts
3 Mar 2013 12:17AM
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He has nothing but problems - Sorry yes Mark you are correct they do handle better.
Although I'm guessing most people here have not driven one ( nor myself ).

This cars puts out 750hp after all that money and breaks everytime. up to about the 5th computer in the last 2 years and lots of complications with the driveline. The evo goes through engines - nothing driveline/computer (approx 400 something hp). Porsche is the only one that goes the mile for him(can not remember hp).

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
2 Mar 2013 11:05PM
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Must be a poorly built engine in the Evo as 400hp isn't exactly huge power.

Computers simply don't break in cars, especially GTR's (i've driven a couple, like i said the 2012 is exceptional. The acceleration is so smooth but it handles like its on rails). When modding turbo cars (i've only got experience with turbo cars) you simply replace and rewire the factory ecu with a better unit (motec, autronic, vipec, whatever) or "flash" the factory ecu (ie fords turbo / blown engines).

Driveline issues are a problem in any hi po modified car (and a honda isn't a choice for hoons) but with enough money you can simply go to Holinger and get them to make you something that wont break. They have track proven driveline options for 32,33,34 GTR's that support 1000awhp in drag cars that launch hard so im sure there is something for the 35R

I think a V8 supertaxi costs around 250K (and isn't really fast but is reliable, handles well and stops well) but i'd put money on it that a standard 2012 GTR (for 160K) would put very similiar track times down. As cliché as it is, the Nurburgring is the ultimate place to see what a car can do and the 35R tore it up :)

Edit:

A V8 supertaxi accelerates from 0-100km in around 3.5seconds a 2012 GTR does it in 2.7 seconds. It's one of the few cars that's best left unmodified

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
2 Mar 2013 11:34PM
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youngbull said...
He has nothing but problems - Sorry yes Mark you are correct they do handle better.
Although I'm guessing most people here have not driven one ( nor myself ).

This cars puts out 750hp after all that money and breaks everytime. up to about the 5th computer in the last 2 years and lots of complications with the driveline. The evo goes through engines - nothing driveline/computer (approx 400 something hp). Porsche is the only one that goes the mile for him(can not remember hp).


maybe your mate should look for another profession then ?

youngbull
QLD, 826 posts
3 Mar 2013 6:55AM
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One of the mechanics is my mate, not the owner.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
3 Mar 2013 7:30AM
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#1 car maker in the world and of all time and #1 selling model of all time. No accidental feat. Toyota.

Love my Hilux.

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
3 Mar 2013 8:15AM
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thePup said...
ikw777 said...
thePup said...
Lexus



Lexus = Toyota


yep that's right


Lexus = Luxury Export United States, yep owned by Toyota.

Subaru also half owned by Toyota

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
3 Mar 2013 12:31PM
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Toyota Corollas are legendary. Wife would not swap her '94 Seca for anything.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
3 Mar 2013 2:26PM
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youngbull said...
He has nothing but problems - Sorry yes Mark you are correct they do handle better.
Although I'm guessing most people here have not driven one ( nor myself ).

This cars puts out 750hp after all that money and breaks everytime. up to about the 5th computer in the last 2 years and lots of complications with the driveline. The evo goes through engines - nothing driveline/computer (approx 400 something hp). Porsche is the only one that goes the mile for him(can not remember hp).


They spent $250k and only got 750hp out of it says they don't know what they are doing.

As for the OP .... Nissan. For the GTR and the Patrol. Both the best at what they do at the far end of the scale.

Patrol by far the toughest 4x4 available in Aust
GTR's Nurburgring records ( R34 & R35 ) speak for themselves

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
3 Mar 2013 12:10PM
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Rikshaw

AndyEliotH
QLD, 356 posts
4 Mar 2013 8:23PM
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Great wall



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