We have just had a major pilot whale stranding in the north of
New Zealand Many locals were out there busting their gut in mid winter
in truly awful conditions trying to save them and only managed to save about 50%
It does make you wonder about human morality and how it can be diametrically
opposed from one area to another and even from one species to another
so whats the difference between dolphin / whale & cow? if they could be farmed id say go for it. tastes ok to me.
ive got a few pets here and ive come to learn that they all are able to be trained in some way. even the rabbit is toilet trained. the fish know when its food time, chooks come when called so obviously they are not totally stupid (cats are not stupid, just overly arrogant)
just saying that i reckon that if they could be farmed, take away all the emotional attachment, marine mamals might be good for tucker.
I've always wondered what swan would tastes like, they look like they have a lot more meat on them than ducks. Anyone eaten a swan, any recipes you'd like to share?
polish barman in London told me swan was very nice.
Girlfriend's college had licence to serve it in the UK (only the Queen is allowed to eat normally) - but never did serve it
Maoris and other pacific islanders were quite partial to humans too
Apparently Europeans werent so good though---- too salty
The point I was trying to make is that we dump a **** load of criticism on the Japs for killing whales. In comparison they do it in a relatively humane fashion to what you see in those photos.
F@@@ing barbarians!
Swan should not taste much different from goose, I imagine, tough as old boots unless you get them really young. In England it is very common for river keepers to puncture the eggs to prevent them from hatching as they make a huge mess of the trout rivers.
doesn't it depend how it is used...
It isn't humane to kill animals if you don't eat them. I understand that whale meat isn't really eaten in japan - they try to give it to school kids to give them a taste for it, and it is used in pet food.
Also, it is against international law and the only way that they justify it is by claiming it is for scientific research..
Happy to be corrected by someone who uses words on the page rather than a seven minute youtube clip.
well thats not far from the truth...
for chickens and pigs atleast.
i could use words on the page to satisfy ginger pomp intelectual ego,
but its probably more effective to show a peta youtube clip
We have a comedian over here in NZ who did ads for the pork industry
Some animal rights people invited him to come with them when they
broke into a pig farm at night and do some filming He went along wth them
and no longer advertises for the pork industry and has become an animal
welfare activist and promotes animal welfare on Television
He just had no idea what was going on, like most of us, even though he was promoting the product
There are some so called humans who are capable of unbelievable cruelty and are often held up as pillars of society
They need to be exposed wherever possible
You get no arguments from me. I spent a lot of time in an abbattoir on the Murray.
If people woke up to the state of their food and this insane centralisation were exposed for what it is animals for the plate would be given the type of care they were given when they were valuable. The argument given by the organic farmer on the Food Inc movie gave a classic example of what our famers are capable of.
Next time you buy an uncooked chook in the supermarket from any of the big producers have a look at how all the exposed red meat has been bleached white by chlorine.
These things we eat are walking bacteria factories.
They do not live long enough to die because die they surely would if their life span were not so short.
Cattle registered increased heart rates on trucks approaching the Wodonga Abattoir simultaneously at distances varying by wind direction.
Often those cattle would wait up to three days before slaughter.
Not good Jan!
my big problem with whaling is that humans have shown time and time again that we are just too greedy to "sustainably harvest" anything from the sea.
Whales are just too easy to wipe out . . If you get a chance, read a bokk entitled
"Whales and Man".
its a big read, about 1000 pages about the history of whaling.
as the book reaches the 20th century the sheer size of the slaughter gets mind boggling. I cant quote any of the figures , as somebody I lent my copy to , decided it was too good to give back, but I do recall , how the Japanese tradition of eating whale meat started in the 1920's when European whalers used to tow the bloated carcasses out to sea from the whaling stations on South Georgia to stop them rotting in the bay. The japanese came with freezer ships that they'd bought cheap from the Europeans and started proccessing the carcasses as a source of cheap meat . I think the blue whale kills for the season in 1929 were in the order of 20,000. i will check on that
Whaling brought civilisation to the rest of the world, especially Australia/New Zealand.
At least that's what Herman Melville says.
dont forget that when melville wrote moby dick they were still hunting with nantucket whaleboats , powered by oars, hand propelled harpoons,and lances.
i re-read the book last year and even the author acknowledges that they were overhunting many species to the point of extinction![]()