Rugby

Whats the G>O salary cap on players.
??????????? the view topic of hot discussion ATM media has abviously blown it out of proportion again

flipside debate................
If aussie rules is that good it would become a multinational sport.....
aussie rules is international FAIL.....Rugby is the sport

busterwa, Melbourne Storm (ex Western Reds) were just dumb enough to get sprung
No doubt the rest are up to some form of jiggering the system some how or other, as suggested by one NRL ex super star tonight on TV Storm were stupid enough to leave a trail. Its not over yet by a long shot. It will be interesting who else, players and officials who may get it in a full broadside for being foolish with salary caps, in the next few months
Anyway, how come the Parra and to a lesser degree Manley haven't been awarded the respective season grand finals

Its rugby league, not rugby. They are two different games.

The Storm is stuffed. Go Saints!

Buster were you refering to Rugby - the 15 man game.....yes it is international but pales against the size of football (soccer) in terms of international participation

Off topic i know but....

I am happy that our game (AFL) is not international, though the lack of a decent side competition (ie State of origin, internationals etc) I think detracts from the game. I think the AFL commision have been fantastic in providing further interest in the home and away season by using special rounds eg indigenous, ANZAC day matches etc (well before the ARL started similiar promotions).
(Anzac day '94 i think - still sends shivers down my spine - standing room MCG and a cracking match of the then toddler bombers v pies)

Back on topic

I cant remember the draw set up for the ARL but - do some teams play the Melbourne storm twice and others once - if as expected the Storm drop away from their high standard it could lead to some interseting outcomes at the end of the season.

They did wrong - should be punished - but i cant help but feel that there is a restriction of trade - yes players can go overseas...

Another difference with football (soccer) is that it is not played on a franchise system.

You go get 10 mates, form a soccer team, enter the local league, win, go up a league, win, go up a league, in a few years (8 I think for England) you win the premiership. In one more you are european champion. In one year from starting you could win the FA cup.

There are a few things you have to do, like have a ground suitable to host league matches etc. which is a sfety requirement as much as anything. 20,000 Chelsea fans decending on your back yard would not be a good idea.

But in comaparision if I wanted to win the AFL or super 14, I would have to start not with 10 mates, but with $10 million and purchase a franchise, if and when the game decides I can have one, which would be never.

This is why soccer will always be more popular than franchised leagues games.

they can't be awarded the Grand Final as regardless of the Storm being stripped of the title, they didn't win.

i.e. History will be recorded as "The Storm won, but were stripped of the title for salary cap breaches!"

Just because there is a salary cap doesn't mean a club can afford it.

The history with Richmonds troubles started back in the eighties they spent too much money on **** players, got themselves into debt...had **** administrators...got even more in debt... lost members...even more debt...bla bla bla bla

since then all they have done is made very poor drafting and trade decisions sticking with established and senior players rather than investing in youth. And without the cash they can't get any really good established players, only has beens.

Only recently(2007) have they finally managed to get their **** together...and delisted all their dead wood and invested in youth...and so begins the 4-5 year rebuilding stage.

Same goes for Melbourne...

Wimbledon kind of did in the early eighties
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimbledon_F.C.

: Note, the "First Division" was the top tier at the time, the "Premiership" and "Championship" leagues did not exist.

They were an established club already, but not bad going from complete amateur to top flight in 10 years odd!

But it works both ways, Wimbledon as a football club died, they were bought out and became the MK Dons who are currently sitting in the third tier (confusingly now called the First Division)