I watched the news last night and had my grand daughter (7yo) sitting next to me, they showed the native family coming out of court carrying on like pork chops in a synagogue 
when the woman came rolling out of the door my grand daughter had a bit of a giggle and asked me if she had too much to drink! we all had a bit of a laugh and then tried to explain that she was very upset.... with her kid's logically set mind she said that was not someone sad or upset behaviour, she should be crying!
Did the old guy said "what is wrong with this country the bastard is innocent and we are getting nothing" or that was just a dream?
It never ceases to amaze me this PC world we live in .If the deceased native person didn't hang around laneways with a large screwdriver robbing passerbys then he would still be with his family who got nothing .I believe the deceased had his OWN weapon read screwdriver turned on him .I feel sorry for his family but the expectation that they would get something from the justice system is just plain wrong ,no amount of verdicts is going to bring back their loved one .My 2 c worth .
if someone wants to attack another person - weapon or not- they have got to expect at some time or another, that they will get what they dish out.
the laws really need to change on this stuff to deter the crims. if i get attacked by a knife weilding mugger, or an intruder at night, im going to assume the worst and that is that they have lethal force. i am more than happy to return such force equally in return to protect my family, or myself.
texan law used to state that if someone broke into your home and you killed them the law will back you up almost every time. goes a bit far for me.
as for law abiding people and guns, well, the laws the way they are means that you could hold it and point it, but never use one in self defence!
thats my issue. see them with the weapon. i didnt see it when he hit me. i also may not have seen it when he shot me, stabbed me or injected me.
edit. its a tough law and i guess thats what legal eagles are for.
if some scum bag is in your house in the dark you can only assume they are not there to empty my bin for you .i know they should'nt be there they know they should'nt be there ,what happened to taking responsibity for your own actions? .why then should i be held accountable for an unfavorable outcome (kick in head of said scum bag)when your in your own house minding your own business? bashem to a pulp then chuckem next to the nearest pedestrian crossing 
Given some of the violence and murders during home invasions lately I think its reasonable to shoot someone but you got to get it right as this storey from USA shows.
A man comes home to his empty house and then hears a burgular upstairs. He gets his gun and goes upstairs with thoughts of dirty harry in his mind. He sees movement in the darkness and shoots the thief. Next he walks over to the wall and turns the light on. Its at this point he realises he wasn't the only person home and his has just killed his own kid.
when the woman came rolling out of the door my grand daughter had a bit of a giggle and asked me if she had too much to drink! we all had a bit of a laugh and then tried to explain that she was very upset.... with her kid's logically set mind she said that was not someone sad or upset behaviour, she should be crying!
