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Surfers Ear Operation

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Created by slackster > 9 months ago, 27 Jun 2013
slackster
WA, 24 posts
27 Jun 2013 2:51PM
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Hey guys and girls

I know there's already a few threads on seabreeze about the issue of 'surfers ear' but i wanted to get a feel for the opinions of crew that have had this surgery?

I've got large exostosis in my left ear which has been diagnosed after loss of hearing in the same ear. Apparently i've got an infection which is causing the canal to swell closing off the small gap between my ear canal and the exostosis. The doc reckons i'll need to get this drilled in the very near future.

Would love to hear peoples opinions on the surgery based on experience?

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
27 Jun 2013 3:49PM
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Before you consent to being cut in a very sensitive area i would explore all natural avenues first,try naturalnews.com

Ian K
WA, 4170 posts
27 Jun 2013 5:05PM
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I've got the same problem. You can hear reasonably well until you get an infection and the remaining bit of open canal gets closed off. I got a referral to the specialist in Wollongong who has done thousands of the ops. Wollongong is the surfer's ear capital, it's not quite cold enough to stop surfers going out in winter. (Though I blame mine on skiing, canoeing, bicycle commuting in Canberra and a stint in Antarctica.) Had a yarn to the specialist. He said I'd only lost a bit in the 2khz band due to the narrowed ear canal. He also showed me the computer images of 20 or so previous patients - before and after. (So much for patient confidentiality, not that you knew who it was) What was surprising was that every ear was occluded by ~90%. That either tells me that that is when it starts giving real trouble and folks turn up at the docs or that there is a negative feedback going on. The specialist didn't have a clue when I bounced the negative feedback idea off him, but I suspect there is a thermostat deep in the ear somewhere that sends a signal for bone to grow in the ear canal if it's too cold. Shut the door it's drafty sort of signal. Once it gets to 90% closed the thermostat is happy, doesn't signal more bone growth and it stops there.

The reason you are prone to infection is water gets in and takes longer to dry out. Use blue tack. Keep a beanie on. I'm working on the negative feedback theory. If I keep my ears warm the bony extosis will atrophy. The specialist gave me the sign up for the op bit of paper. What if I do nothing? He said I'd probably get another infection. If it was real bad they'd have to do hospital administered antibiotics, and then operate. That was 3 years ago, haven't had the op, haven't had another infection, i can still hear sort of. Go through a lot of blue tac though. But then again I don't go for a swim just for the hell of it any more. I limit my swims to the accidental ones taken when windsurfing.

Issa
355 posts
27 Jun 2013 5:27PM
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Do you guys suffer from tinnitus?

Craig66
NSW, 2466 posts
27 Jun 2013 7:41PM
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First, why post in heavy weather ?

I have had op on right ear, left will need op also in time.

Link to old thread, have a read.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Blocked-ears/?page=1

Issa, yes i also suffer with tinnitus, i can hear it buzzing now.

slackster
WA, 24 posts
27 Jun 2013 6:28PM
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Cos i'm in heavy weather Craig66!

Thanks for the link to that thread............some good opinions in there.

No tinnitus Issa..........

Cheers Ian K, i reckon ear plugs are the go and prolong op as long as possible. Heard experiences where people have the surgery and exostosis can reappear after 5yrs............

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
27 Jun 2013 9:43PM
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Issa said..

Do you guys suffer from tinnitus?


Yes, ringing away right now.
Although I suspect it's from long nights dancing in front of 3 story speaker stacks in my misspent youth.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
27 Jun 2013 11:54PM
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Ears always ringing here too. I blame The Cramps gig in 1986. The most punishing volume ive ever encountered. Telephone rings the next day made me yelp!

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
27 Jun 2013 10:47PM
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I had the op done to my right ear about 15+ years ago... no real issue and no recurring problem.

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
16 Jul 2013 12:36PM
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I never had tinnitus till I started taking blood pressure tablets about 10 or 12 years ago. There were no warnings about it and now I'm stuck with it even though I'm no longer on medication. I did a bit of research on good old Dr Google and found it to be so. Bastards. Hang on someones ringing the doorbell, or is it.?

Rex
WA, 949 posts
16 Jul 2013 11:28AM
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Ian K said..

I've got the same problem. You can hear reasonably well until you get an infection and the remaining bit of open canal gets closed off. I got a referral to the specialist in Wollongong who has done thousands of the ops. Wollongong is the surfer's ear capital,


Out of interest, if you are speaking to your specialist again, ask which is the predominant ear to get affected on the east coast. It seams here on the west coast most of the folk that I know with surfers ear have a left ear problem, possibly sitting on their board facing the west with the prevailing wind on the left ear.

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
16 Jul 2013 1:46PM
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Rex said..
Ian K said..



I've got the same problem. You can hear reasonably well until you get an infection and the remaining bit of open canal gets closed off. I got a referral to the specialist in Wollongong who has done thousands of the ops. Wollongong is the surfer's ear capital,


Out of interest, if you are speaking to your specialist again, ask which is the predominant ear to get affected on the east coast. It seams here on the west coast most of the folk that I know with surfers ear have a left ear problem, possibly sitting on their board facing the west with the prevailing wind on the left ear.


HA - I had my right ear done 15yrs ago... and I am a WA surfer... I always figured it was from driving home with the Drivers side window down!!

And I too have just noticed Tinnitus at night time... I blame having good seats at the recent Areosmith concert in Melbourne!

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
16 Jul 2013 1:57PM
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WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK THE SPECIALIST YOU WERE REFERRED TO FOR THEIR OPINION RATHER THAN THE OPINION OF INTERNET STRANGERS?

briann8300
NSW, 144 posts
16 Jul 2013 4:43PM
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Legion said..

WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK THE SPECIALIST YOU WERE REFERRED TO FOR THEIR OPINION RATHER THAN THE OPINION OF INTERNET STRANGERS?


Internet strangers are more honest

Buster fin
WA, 2599 posts
16 Jul 2013 5:33PM
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My left ear was ground out 2 years ago. No probs since then.
Mine was done o/s and the right ear is due but not serious enough yet.
Helmets don't prevent it, but blu-tak does. Both keep you warmer in winter though.


What was your question??

jamdfingr
QLD, 663 posts
16 Jul 2013 8:35PM
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briann8300 said...
Legion said..

WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK THE SPECIALIST YOU WERE REFERRED TO FOR THEIR OPINION RATHER THAN THE OPINION OF INTERNET STRANGERS?


Internet strangers are more honest



And we charge less....

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
17 Jul 2013 1:03AM
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GPA said...
Rex said..
Ian K said..



I've got the same problem. You can hear reasonably well until you get an infection and the remaining bit of open canal gets closed off. I got a referral to the specialist in Wollongong who has done thousands of the ops. Wollongong is the surfer's ear capital,


Out of interest, if you are speaking to your specialist again, ask which is the predominant ear to get affected on the east coast. It seams here on the west coast most of the folk that I know with surfers ear have a left ear problem, possibly sitting on their board facing the west with the prevailing wind on the left ear.


HA - I had my right ear done 15yrs ago... and I am a WA surfer... I always figured it was from driving home with the Drivers side window down!!

And I too have just noticed Tinnitus at night time... I blame having good seats at the recent Areosmith concert in Melbourne!


I'm also WA and my right ear is pretty close to being drilled. also thought of the car window thing. Thought left would make sense with the sea breeze.

djl070
WA, 291 posts
17 Jul 2013 9:02AM
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slackster said..
Hey guys and girls

I know there's already a few threads on seabreeze about the issue of 'surfers ear' but i wanted to get a feel for the opinions of crew that have had this surgery?

I've got large exostosis in my left ear which has been diagnosed after loss of hearing in the same ear. Apparently i've got an infection which is causing the canal to swell closing off the small gap between my ear canal and the exostosis. The doc reckons i'll need to get this drilled in the very near future.

Would love to hear peoples opinions on the surgery based on experience?


It looks as if its fairly common,I've got an appointment with a specialist in August as I have exostosis in both ears and my hearing is starting to get affected

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
17 Jul 2013 3:55PM
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DIY??

www.instructables.com/id/Stich-Yourself-Shut-Sugery-at-home/

Equipment required: Black and decker drill,.....Ear.....Aspro clear....job done!

Surfstarved
78 posts
17 Jul 2013 5:26PM
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Do the Doc Plug things work then?

werty
WA, 119 posts
17 Jul 2013 9:59PM
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Doc plugs are quite good, custom fitted in shop. However quite expensive and very delicate, too delicate.
Speedo do a set of excellent plugs for about 10 bucks hide my set on harness, cause I need them for any water activity nowadays long term user.
The main prob with plugs I find is you looking like a moron because you are screaming at your mates cause you are in your own noiseless world, these speedo plugs still enable me to hear and don't seem to affect balance.

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
11 Nov 2013 8:03PM
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GPA said..

I had the op done to my right ear about 15+ years ago... no real issue and no recurring problem.


Oops! Spoke too soon! After my second ear infection in around 6 weeks - and second course of antibiotics and heavy duty syringing failed to 'unblock' my right ear today I was told by the GP that the boney growths are back and as he cannot see my ear drum he's declared that I need to have surgery...

Can those of you who have had it done recently let me know how long I am likely to be out of the water... I am arguing with myself weather to get it done over summer or winter (and yes I know the surf in Perth is better in winter - but I love swimming, surfing and snorkeling in summer). I am currently thinking winter so that I can enjoy summer and autumn.

Anyone (in WA) been to see Dr Phillip Fisher for this op?

sn
WA, 2775 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:23PM
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Doc Fisher is damn good!

I havent had ear ops like yours- but he has worked on me twice for other stuff.

1st time [11 years ago] was fixing my nose - "twin turbinectomy" - easiest described as chiseling excess bone and stuff from inside your schnozz.
Operation went perfect with no complications.

And a week ago he cut my throat for me.
Op. was a "UPPP + macrocheilia" - tonsils, adenoids, soft palate, uvula and tongue messed about with [anti sleep apnoea stuff]
Apparently I am supposed to be stoned on painkillers for at least a fortnight, but happily walked out of Joondalup hospital and have only used a couple of panadol since.

Mind you, the chilli kebab I bought from the shop between Joondalup hospital and the cinema [where the sandwichmaker was waiting for me] made my eyes water a bit
Purely self inflicted pain as far as I am concerned- feel free to point fingers and laugh

From what I gather Doc Fisher does a hell of a lot of ear surgery on swimmers and ear grommets for kids.

If Doc Fisher is working on you- you will be fine.

stephen

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
11 Nov 2013 11:05PM
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^^^
Thanks for the reply Stephen... appreciate you taking the time.



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