Swine Flu Jab....good or bad?????

What ya reckon?....needed or not?...... its a medical prediction

biggest mobs coming from autumn onward

what ya gonna dooooooooooo

I would say no at this stage . Saying that Im wondering what the next strain of the flu will bring this year? I guess thats what paid sickies are for

I can feel the tin foil hat brigade stalking this thread already...

I reckon that this has been one of the biggest con jobs the population has succumbed to yet. Bet anyone who had shares in Tamiflu made a motsa!

I get a flu jab every year without fail.
My employer offers it to me if i want it.

Never had any side effects and don't feel that the gov't has implanted me with any microchips to monitor my whereabouts.

Recommend the jab as opposed to not being able to get on the water.

My doc suggested I have it. (I could tell she was as sceptical about the need for it as I was, but what the heck). Had it. Made not a scrap of difference. I was healthy before and I remained healthy after. Same went for the missus.

Of course, some people here would say that doctors don't know the different between aspirin and arsenic so maybe she injected me with a saline solution. Or cyanide. Who knows? Life is a gamble.

before taking the 'shot',you should become aware of the ingredients.

from dr carley website.

Some additional ingredients in vaccines (as listed by the CDC on their website) include antibiotics, aluminum gels, formaldehyde, monosodium glutamate (MSG), egg protein, and sulfites. Thus, we have antibiotics (which you could be allergic to); aluminum (which when combined with dead neurons killed by mercury in vaccines as demonstrated in the video at

) results in the neurofibrillary tangles seen in Alzheimer’s disease); formaldehyde (a toxic carcinogenic substance used to preserve dead people); MSG ( a potent excitotoxin9 which, like aspartame, can cause seizures, brain tumors, etc.); egg protein (to which you could have a life threatening anaphylactic reaction); and sulfites (another toxin which we are advised not to consume much of orally, but in vaccines, it is injected directly into the body). Is this not a veritable witch’s brew of chemicals, organisms, and animal parts? What the CDC does NOT list is that 13 vaccines at present (and more are in the works) are actually cultured on aborted human fetal tissues (go to www.cogforlife.org for more info). THIS IS CANNIBALISM. Note in this list that they also fail to mention the ethyl-mercury containing preservative thimerosol, which has been the only dangerous substance in vaccines to receive mainstream media attention (albeit most of that being disinformation) after the explosion in the rate of occurrence of autism in the last generation became self-evident proof that vaccines are the causative factor. For, although the scientists working for the medical mafia continue to use statistics to twist and spin their data to make us beLIEve that vaccines are not the cause, too many thousands of parents have watched their children enter the downward spiral into autism after their children received the vaccine which was the straw that broke the back of their child’s immune system. No matter what the “white coats” tell these parents, they know the truth!

Mercury (also in dental amalgam fillings) is a highly toxic heavy metal, has been documented to cause cancer, and can be absorbed through the digestive track, skin, and respiratory track. Mercury is 1,000 times more toxic than lead, and is second only to uranium as the most toxic metal. If children receive all recommended vaccines, they will receive many times the “allowable safe limit” for mercury in the first two years of life (as if there is such a thing as a “safe” amount of a toxic poison). Yet, even after Congressional hearings instigated by Congressman Dan Burton (whose own grandchild became autistic after receiving vaccines) resulted in the FDA requesting (not ordering) vaccine manufacturers to remove this toxic heavy metal from their products, mercury is still present in many vaccines

The benefits of vaccinations far outweigh the side effects IMO.
Ever met anyone with Polio for example?

Vaccines don't stay in your body and they don't kill the "nasties".

The flu vaccine is the actual flu virus but has had the middle third of its DNA chopped out so it is "inactivated". With the middle third of the DNA removed it's no longer a flu virus (it can't replicate itself) so you can't catch the flu from it.

Your body's immune system just needs to be presented with the sequences of DNA from the two ends of the flu virus (i.e. the 1st third and the 3rd third - the middle third having been removed as detailed above). Your body's immune system detects these "ends" of the virus and produces antibodies to kill what it thinks is a virus. Your body then "remembers" this virus so if you subsequently catch the real flu then your body thinks "Oh, I've seen this before and pops off to its library of known viruses pulls out the antibody recipe that worked against the vaccine all that time ago and quickly gets to work making the antibodies that then go off and kill the real flu virus that you've just caught." The advantage of having had the vaccine is that your body already has the recipe it needs and doesn't need to work it out again so your body kills the virus much much quicker - often so quickly that you don't even know you caught it.

Aluminium may be added as an "adjuvant", i.e. it increases the efficacy of a given amount of vaccine, i.e. your body produces a quicker, more effective response against the inactivated virus for a given amount of vaccine, which means the injection volume can be less so more people can be vaccinated for a given amount of total vaccine produced. Cost effective and lower risk of adverse reaction against the vaccine. Traces of egg may be apparent because the virus is usually grown in a chicken egg before being extracted, purified and bottled.

Thanks, cambodge. It's good to see a sensible post for a change.

As the poor relative pointed out, when I was a kid it used to be very common to see folks suffering from the aftermath of having once had polio, poor sods. Now it's very rare thanks to compulsory immunisation. If the government were microchipping us (which it isn't... at least not on planet Earth anyway) then I choose the chips.

In general I am against flu jabs. I had one when I was a kid and I was sick afterwards. So no for me. I didn't get sick in the last swine flu panic and if I get sick this flu season I have plenty of sick leave.

ok. along with radiation, toxins, disease, etc, most people forget that all of these are present in all foods, ocean, air and earth. youd get more mercury, aluminium etc etc from a life time of ocean fun than you would get from any one jab. doesnt stop you from surfing though.
sure the ingredients are there, but the levels are pretty low. i would like to know the ppm though.
personally, im not getting jabbed this year, ive had so many over my lifetime for my job and injuries, and im very healthy, so that i will pass on it. maybe next year.

Ok so two weeks ago, little baby next door is fitting fit! All rellies and friends are flu symptom free.
She has jab in the morning...she is really not well at all buy 10pm.
She is sick as a dog the next morning..with flu like symptoms...even the Dr said they were flu like symptoms. 3 days later she is her old self again..
Ok so why was she sick?

cambodge......Weigh up these things against the very very very low probability of a severe adverse reaction from the jab.

seriously, you have got to be joking.

5 years ago my younger sister went on holiday to India.

before leaving to India she took from memory around 4 different vaccines.

a week or so prior to her leaving, i stumbled on article from Good Medicine magazine
written by the editor on vaccines. ''weighing up the positive/negative's i do not recommend anyone of our readers take any vaccine.''

it was this article written in the editor's column of Good Medicine magazine that first got me to question vaccines.

i remember getting into a very heated debate with my sister and mum prior to her taking the shots.

i begged her not to,but fear won through.

i later found out that, straight after taking the vaccines, my sister felt very unwell. this lasted around the duration of her one week holiday.

my dad who is very pro-vaccine admitted to me, that when he was 16 years old, he had a vaccine and ''got sick as a dog''.

my best friend Tony got a vaccine a few hours after being born. his whole body turned blue and he very nearly died.

have to agree with japie [for once] on this......I reckon that this has been one of the biggest con jobs the population has succumbed to yet

http://www.avn.org.au/News-and-Events/

^^ eggsacury formula.... runny nose, temps for about 24 hours.

My 18 month old son had the swine vaccine a week ago,

guess what, he is still alive!

formulanova......Peter, did your sister contract any of the things that she was immunized against, or did she just feel unwell for a week?

she told me maybe a year or so later[many times] that she has hepatitis. she told me that she believes it was from the hepatitis vaccine she had taken prior to going on her holiday.

when i mentioned this to my dad, he went crazy and immed got on phone to my sister, who denied the whole thing!

and to this day still denies ever telling me she has contracted hepatitis.

work that out.