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The Cat is out of the Bag Now!!!!

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Created by cisco > 9 months ago, 23 Sep 2012
cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
23 Sep 2012 11:25AM
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When will the insanity end??


www.news-mail.com.au/news/minister-puts-bounty-film-maker/1554899/

CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
23 Sep 2012 11:47AM
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Quite apt I think

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
23 Sep 2012 9:51AM
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Naahhh. Must be a misprint.
I heard it was just a problem with dis-affected youth.

Rupert
TAS, 2967 posts
23 Sep 2012 11:59AM
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Well, well, well Mr Ghulam Ahmed Bilour Railways minister of Pakistan, a country that spends millions of dollars on a nuclear weapons program yet relies on Foreign Aid to feed it's people, mainly from the USA and other western nations. You are offering a reward and inciting and inviting Al Ouida and the Taliban to commit terrorist acts upon your benefactors................Coming soon to a building near you.


evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
24 Sep 2012 11:55AM
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The only people spreading awareness of this "film" are the people that purport to be so offended by it. They see an opportunity to create a wedge and further inflame a perceived victimisation; where in reality nobody is holding them back. ****, given the right qualifications they could even move to the U.S., go live inside this so-called enemy. They'd be welcome.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
24 Sep 2012 12:21PM
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If I hated Muslims their reaction would only encourage me to make more films... $100 green screen movie... makes poor disenfranchised Muslims riot, strike and kill each other.


FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
24 Sep 2012 12:24PM
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Rupert said...

Well, well, well Mr Ghulam Ahmed Bilour Railways minister of Pakistan, a country that spends millions of dollars on a nuclear weapons program yet relies on Foreign Aid to feed it's people, mainly from the USA and other western nations. You are offering a reward and inciting and inviting Al Ouida and the Taliban to commit terrorist acts upon your benefactors................Coming soon to a building near you.





They've been bombing them for 9 years already, and the US needs Pakistan just as much as Pakistan needs the US.

Rupert
TAS, 2967 posts
24 Sep 2012 12:38PM
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They've been bombing them for 9 years already, and the US needs Pakistan just as much as Pakistan needs the US.


HUH?
In the words of a red headed former politician - Please Explain why the US needs Pakistan.
Seriously I am no fan of US foreign policy but 'Why does the US need Pakistan'?

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
24 Sep 2012 10:42AM
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How does the US need Pakistan? Not being a knob actually curious.

Had a quick google and the biggest thing I could find was that Pakistan buys American weapons and they also have a road that they like to shut when they have a hissy fit.

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
24 Sep 2012 11:49AM
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They only need them while they in Afghanistan. All the east and south east border of Afghanistan is with Pakistan. To ship equipment in and out of Afghanistan they need to do it through Pakistan. All other routes are impossible or very expensive and unlikely. e.g. the border on the west is into Iran and I don't think they would be in the mood to assist America.
Also, by buying friendship with Pakistan they were hoping they would get some assistance in stopping alquaeda and the taliban from slipping across the border into Pakistan when under attack and then slipping back into afghanistan when the heat died down. It costs the US billions in aid to Pakistan to try and get this cooperation and it was money poorly spent. It appears that Pakistan does just enough to look like they are on side and no more. Consequently, Osama bin laden was found living in pakistan in an army town very close to army facilities.
America is obviously aware of the situation but what else can they do but continue to pay up. ?

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Sep 2012 11:57AM
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pweedas said...

They only need them while they in Afghanistan. All the east and south east border of Afghanistan is with Pakistan. To ship equipment in and out of Afghanistan they need to do it through Pakistan. All other routes are impossible or very expensive and unlikely. e.g. the border on the west is into Iran and I don't think they would be in the mood to assist America.
Also, by buying friendship with Pakistan they were hoping they would get some assistance in stopping alquaeda and the taliban from slipping across the border into Pakistan when under attack and then slipping back into afghanistan when the heat died down. It costs the US billions in aid to Pakistan to try and get this cooperation and it was money poorly spent. It appears that Pakistan does just enough to look like they are on side and no more. Consequently, Osama bin laden was found living in pakistan in an army town very close to army facilities.
America is obviously aware of the situation but what else can they do but continue to pay up. ?


Wouldnt that make Pakistan a target for Afganistan?

Radmac
WA, 201 posts
24 Sep 2012 1:37PM
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America (and the West) needs Pakistan, because they have the bomb.

They are worried about the global implications if Pakistan becomes (more?) unstable.

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
24 Sep 2012 2:12PM
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Ah right, cheers. It sounded like that was the case. Bit of a pickle then.

Still, wouldn't be surprised if that minister goes 'missing'. Probably wouldn't be a bad thing either.

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
24 Sep 2012 2:25PM
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doggie said...

pweedas said...

They only need them while they in Afghanistan. All the east and south east border of Afghanistan is with Pakistan. To ship equipment in and out of Afghanistan they need to do it through Pakistan. All other routes are impossible or very expensive and unlikely. e.g. the border on the west is into Iran and I don't think they would be in the mood to assist America.
Also, by buying friendship with Pakistan they were hoping they would get some assistance in stopping alquaeda and the taliban from slipping across the border into Pakistan when under attack and then slipping back into afghanistan when the heat died down. It costs the US billions in aid to Pakistan to try and get this cooperation and it was money poorly spent. It appears that Pakistan does just enough to look like they are on side and no more. Consequently, Osama bin laden was found living in pakistan in an army town very close to army facilities.
America is obviously aware of the situation but what else can they do but continue to pay up. ?


Wouldnt that make Pakistan a target for Afganistan?


No. Afghanistan is now theoretically an ally of the west. Probably not for long but while the current government is in charge in Afghanistan it would have no interest in making trouble in Pakistan.
It never would have really. The border regions are a similar people on both sides and that's what makes it so easy for them to hop back and forwards.
It's also what makes it so difficult in those regions to make a clear border. There is generally no distinct line where the ethnicity of the inhabitants changes from one people to another. It's just a gradual blur, so wherever the border is drawn, there are always people on the wrong side which want the border moved. Thus there is constant fighting to achieve the unachievable.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
24 Sep 2012 11:21PM
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Not that the US is any paragon of honesty or loyalty but the Arabs and Pakis will change sides or play both sides at the drop of a hat, depending on who is offering the best dollar deal.

You can't trust the buggers.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
25 Sep 2012 9:56AM
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pweedas said...

doggie said...

pweedas said...

They only need them while they in Afghanistan. All the east and south east border of Afghanistan is with Pakistan. To ship equipment in and out of Afghanistan they need to do it through Pakistan. All other routes are impossible or very expensive and unlikely. e.g. the border on the west is into Iran and I don't think they would be in the mood to assist America.
Also, by buying friendship with Pakistan they were hoping they would get some assistance in stopping alquaeda and the taliban from slipping across the border into Pakistan when under attack and then slipping back into afghanistan when the heat died down. It costs the US billions in aid to Pakistan to try and get this cooperation and it was money poorly spent. It appears that Pakistan does just enough to look like they are on side and no more. Consequently, Osama bin laden was found living in pakistan in an army town very close to army facilities.
America is obviously aware of the situation but what else can they do but continue to pay up. ?


Wouldnt that make Pakistan a target for Afganistan?


No. Afghanistan is now theoretically an ally of the west. Probably not for long but while the current government is in charge in Afghanistan it would have no interest in making trouble in Pakistan.
It never would have really. The border regions are a similar people on both sides and that's what makes it so easy for them to hop back and forwards.
It's also what makes it so difficult in those regions to make a clear border. There is generally no distinct line where the ethnicity of the inhabitants changes from one people to another. It's just a gradual blur, so wherever the border is drawn, there are always people on the wrong side which want the border moved. Thus there is constant fighting to achieve the unachievable.



Ya gotta feel for the people caught up in all of that rubbish



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