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anz cuts rates

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Created by Mr float > 9 months ago, 12 Oct 2012
Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
12 Oct 2012 5:12PM
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woo hoo.We're going to buy a $6 bottle of wine tonight rather than a $5 bottle to celebrate . Isn't it great for the shareholders and execs that the meeting is conveniently held nearly 2 weeks after the RBA announces its rates and we only have one week more to wait for the cut to actually happen .Lets see when the rates are heading up again whether they wait for their meeting to decide whether its going up .my bet is that they will manage to make a decision within seconds of them going up that they will be putting them up and i'd say we won't even have to wait another week it will be immediate !!.

Scotty88
4214 posts
12 Oct 2012 2:29PM
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And the banks will be drinking Dom.

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
12 Oct 2012 2:44PM
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Vote with your feet. Call them up and DEMAND a lower rate or you'll take your business elsewhere. It works!

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
12 Oct 2012 2:48PM
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Yes it works! They will call your bluff and you will have to find someone else to lend you the money.

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
12 Oct 2012 2:53PM
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It's not a bluff. It's easy enough to do research and head on down to the bank/creditunion of your choice. It's a cut throat business and a lot of lenders will do what they can to beat their competitors for your money.

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
12 Oct 2012 7:06PM
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Pitbull said...
It's not a bluff. It's easy enough to do research and head on down to the bank/creditunion of your choice. It's a cut throat business and a lot of lenders will do what they can to beat their competitors for your money.



Really not this lil black sheep venturing out in a 1 year old business that makes money has no debts and employs 7 people .30 years of various businesses and employment and paying loans and taxes without default ever counts for nuttin .Nor does having nearly 1 mill assets and no debts except for a small mortgage .its a new venture they're not interested .Current loan negotiated whilst in employment for someone else .Funny tho because I had only been in that job a short while and could have been fired in an instant with no income . Here's the real irony .An employee of mine who has worked for me less than a year can negotiate a loan but I can't .Go figure ?/

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
12 Oct 2012 4:29PM
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Well done Mr Float. Like yourself, I'm virtually debt free. It's a good feeling to not have to work for the bank and if they want my money they're going to do it under reasonable rates and conditions that I agree to.

bumstein
WA, 108 posts
12 Oct 2012 7:45PM
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ANZ are the biggest pack of thieving wotnots!!! Live in my world???? Go fornicatr your own asses ANZ you law breaking, life destroying ass monkeys who can't count and won't take responsibility for anything!! Let alone your own mistakes!! Foccaia ppl over when they could easily do the right thing except they don't want to admit they screwed the pooch!! Instead let's lose money and ruin ppls lives at the same time!! **** you!!!

P.S. ANZ employees touch small dogs for recreation... Srsly!!

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
13 Oct 2012 12:38AM
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Mr float said...

Really not this lil black sheep venturing out in a 1 year old business that makes money has no debts and employs 7 people .30 years of various businesses and employment and paying loans and taxes without default ever counts for nuttin .Nor does having nearly 1 mill assets and no debts except for a small mortgage .its a new venture they're not interested .Current loan negotiated whilst in employment for someone else .Funny tho because I had only been in that job a short while and could have been fired in an instant with no income . Here's the real irony .An employee of mine who has worked for me less than a year can negotiate a loan but I can't .Go figure ?/


Being such an angel why would you seek to get in bed with the Devil by taking out a loan??

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
13 Oct 2012 8:28AM
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cisco said...
Mr float said...

Really not this lil black sheep venturing out in a 1 year old business that makes money has no debts and employs 7 people .30 years of various businesses and employment and paying loans and taxes without default ever counts for nuttin .Nor does having nearly 1 mill assets and no debts except for a small mortgage .its a new venture they're not interested .Current loan negotiated whilst in employment for someone else .Funny tho because I had only been in that job a short while and could have been fired in an instant with no income . Here's the real irony .An employee of mine who has worked for me less than a year can negotiate a loan but I can't .Go figure ?/


Being such an angel why would you seek to get in bed with the Devil by taking out a loan??




I'm already in bed with them but we don't make out much with a small loan .Still would prefer not to be paying them so much and would like to see the same for others .On the flipside retired bay boomers are getting good rates for what is left of teir money an dare more likely to spend . I would like to buy the shop I'm in ( I own the business not the shop)

pueter66
QLD, 205 posts
13 Oct 2012 8:18AM
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It pays to shop around, I told ANZ to stick there business and i was moving banks,
and they came back with a 1% under standard variable, so i am still with them until they really piss me off.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
13 Oct 2012 11:39AM
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Mr float said...
I would like to buy the shop I'm in ( I own the business not the shop)


That might seem like a good idea if you are thinking you would not have to pay rent any more.

From a business point of view the business still has to pay rent whether it is to somebody else or to you. Not to do so will have the business running under a false scenario.

If you buy the shop I suggest you do it in a different entity such as your super fund or "Mr float Holdings". For a start, doing that will mean you are buying the shop as a "going concern" and therefore not liable for GST on the purchase.

Secondly you will then have two businesses. A trading business and a real estate renting business. You can then sell either without having to sell the other.

It would be better to have the real estate in your own name for Capital Gains Tax reasons. You would only have to pay CGT on 50% of the gain which would be added to your other annual income.

If you have the real estate in a company name there is no relief on CGT. You will pay 30% tax on 100% of the gain.

I am not an accountant but I make sure I hire a good one. I stay right away from the ITPs and the H and Rs, especially the latter.

Get advice from a good accountant who is not a proxy employee of the ATO.

If you are interested in direct property investment you might like to look at these guys. www.cromwell.com.au/home

I recently bought a lump of units in the Ipswich City Heart Trust and it is paying 8%/annum tax deferred with monthly distributions.

It is called "Making money while you sleep.".

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
13 Oct 2012 4:53PM
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cisco said...
Mr float said...
I would like to buy the shop I'm in ( I own the business not the shop)


That might seem like a good idea if you are thinking you would not have to pay rent any more.

From a business point of view the business still has to pay rent whether it is to somebody else or to you. Not to do so will have the business running under a false scenario.

If you buy the shop I suggest you do it in a different entity such as your super fund or "Mr float Holdings". For a start, doing that will mean you are buying the shop as a "going concern" and therefore not liable for GST on the purchase.

Secondly you will then have two businesses. A trading business and a real estate renting business. You can then sell either without having to sell the other.

It would be better to have the real estate in your own name for Capital Gains Tax reasons. You would only have to pay CGT on 50% of the gain which would be added to your other annual income.

If you have the real estate in a company name there is no relief on CGT. You will pay 30% tax on 100% of the gain.

I am not an accountant but I make sure I hire a good one. I stay right away from the ITPs and the H and Rs, especially the latter.

Get advice from a good accountant who is not a proxy employee of the ATO.

If you are interested in direct property investment you might like to look at these guys. www.cromwell.com.au/home

I recently bought a lump of units in the Ipswich City Heart Trust and it is paying 8%/annum tax deferred with monthly distributions.

It is called "Making money while you sleep.".



coool thanks for the heads up



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