If you have a conspiracy theory you would like to give an airing, please feel free to do so in here.
This way we know where not to look in future
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Id like to see how many genuine (?) theories there are. I can kick off with a few:
osama is protected by cia
twin tower stuff
alluminium is bad for you
the port arthur killings were government organised
usa is listening in on our conversations
Nup
Nup
Yes - Al is (may be?) linked to Alzheimers and more research needed
Nup
and big yes. Look at Project Echelon which is well known and admitted / proven. I doubt they monitor much of Australia's telecommunications though. Well monitor is the wrong word. Everything is run through and the keywords are picked up, but the filters are set to prioritise threats to US interests.
what id like to know is where are the communist cospirators like the ussr, korea, china, or the eastern block. werent they supposed to be the bad guys in the post war period??
OK
Most people, regimes, groups and organisations in the world are not as clever / able as you think they are.
Things that seem suspicious / nefarious are usually due to people's ineptitude / stuipidity / mistakes, not their ability to manipulate the population of the world.
It was refreshing to watch the doco 'Is Osama dead or alive' on TV last night (on some random Austar channel) and have many ex-CIA and US federal agents basically say - 'we make mistakes, big mistakes, Osama has spent 37 years in north east Afganistan / North west Pakistan evading the Russians, the Pakastaines, the Taliban, the Afgan forces, NATO, the winter weather, lack of food and now the US. He is better at hiding than we are at looking'.
We seem to believe that Americans are winners, and if they loose there must be a conspiracy behind it. I would suggest the US hasn't won any conflict off home soil since the second world war, maybe excluding the stand off over the Cuban missle crisis and Kuwait, but nothing else (including the majors of Vietnam, Korea, Balklands, Somalia, Iraq and Afganistan).
Post second world war is a very interesting period in history. It was the longest period of non-armed conflict in western Europe for 2,000 years. It also had no true world superpower, no nation had an empire. And the concept of nations based on geographical borders has never been so strong.
We look to the US to fill the void of a superpower that has always existed. The US is not a superpower. It does not export its influence over the world to any degree remotely similar to British empire, Dutch Empire, Ottoman Empire, Nation of Islam, Romans, Greeks, Gengis Khan (who was second only to Britian in terms of land area under his control), the Gauls, Charlemain, Chinese etc. etc.
People looking for conspiracies in things are searching for meaning in thier life in having somebody, somewhere in power and in control. They assume somebody or something has absolute power. Right now, that is less true than ever before.
Next time you think that hoardes of people have secretly cooperated to perform something that you can't explain, I say it is actually not the delibrate actions of co-ordinated groups of secret agents, but the inactions and mistakes of a couple of unrelated individuals.
Sorry, but there is no order in the world, no logic in the world and we make more mistakes than not.
thats the stupidest most miss-informed thing i think i have ever read...
sounds like you are either in total denial, completely asleep or intravenously fed siht
The CIA have never touched drugs.
There were no CIA personnel involved with the Nugan Hand bank.
The CIA have no mob connections.
Chemical warfare is a myth.
No US agents have ever been involved in assainations, least of all in foreign territory.
Western foreign policy has always held the populations welfare as their number one concern.
No US citizens have ever profitted from war nor had any interest in doing so.
The bill of rights and and the US constitution applies to the citizens of the world.
Where the Taliban suceeded in destroying the opium trade out of Afghanistan the US military killed it completely.
Of course these are not conspiracies, just facts of life!
F**k me Carantoc, do you keep a remote control in your pocket so you can locate your blind stick? If so it must operate on a buzzer because you must be deaf to be so sincerely misinformed!
If you seriously think that there is no clandestine cohesive policy amongst the mega wealthy of his world that surpasses blatant historic imperialism in all forms then you must be living under a very large rock in a very secluded forest!
The CIA have never touched drugs.
There were no CIA personnel involved with the Nugan Hand bank.
The CIA have no mob connections.
Chemical warfare is a myth.
No US agents have ever been involved in assainations, least of all in foreign territory.
Western foreign policy has always held the populations welfare as their number one concern.
No US citizens have ever profitted from war nor had any interest in doing so.
The bill of rights and and the US constitution applies to the citizens of the world.
Where the Taliban suceeded in destroying the opium trade out of Afghanistan the US military killed it completely.
Not True - Afghanistan
Not True
Not True - but obviously part of their role
Not True - it's well documented
Not True - they tried to poison Osama. Hence him having reduced kidney function( The new jackals, Simon reeve)
Obviously not true - American policy in south america is heavily influenced by farm lobby. Hence high fructose corn syrup being used instead of sugar
Not true - it's why it's called the arms INDUSTRY
Not true because it's the US constitution
Not true - opium production has increased (I think)
But those are all small things to co-ordinate in comparison to some of the other things. In fact most of them aren't conspiracies, they're just obvious commercial pressures.
We are getting somewhere here GP! Obvious commercial pressure eh!
Of course that precludes doing anything proactive because that would be blatantly unethical!
With the biggest and most effective propagand machine ever assembled they do not need to coordinate, they only need to co-operate.
If Rupert Murdoch had a brain snap and turned buddhist how long do you think he would last?
See Formulanova, that is were you trip up. The doctor did not say that it sounded stupid, he said it was stupid and it is. He was not claiming Carantocs stupidity as validation.
Details are not critical for the logic. If a man is found to be a kleptomaniac it is not difficult to believe that he will steal on a large scale.
The men with the clout have already been proved to be capable of unethical behaviour on a level that is incomprhensible.
The rest is simply a matter of scale.
9/10 for the blue team against, red are failing @ 7/10 red are in a combo situation. Sorry red for team 10 days on the clock ![]()
the "Great wind and surf and euro chicks in W.A. CONSPIRACY!!"
It's an evil plot to lure unsuspecting windsurfers to W.A. where they are then forced to work in the mines as slaves ..
Evidence : Everyone who goes to W.A. to windsurf. NEVER RETURNS !!!!![]()
there is a face on my fence formed from resin bleaching and knot swelling.
my 4 & 6 year old kids say it's a a conspiracy from the pirates.
I keep burning my toast its been like that for the past week
This morning the burn looked distinctly like Jesus's face
I think god is conspiring with the electricity company to bring me burnt toast.
If I was, the euro chicks would also never leave.
I've been a bit tied up with tainting the water supply this week...missed out on alien day at Pine Gap ![]()