be really nice to the nasty little kids. let the kids know whos dad you are and they will swing. been there a few times and its never failed.
sorry nebs but it plays on my head when there a kid involved with a potential lousy future 
as daggy as it sounds it is actually the adult taking control of a situation through example and kindness rather than negative reactions.
kinda like hitting a dog to teach it things. itll turn on ya one day. gotta use the positive side.
ill get off my high horse now before im shot off it. 
I really hope that everything gets sorted out.
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Yeah I agree with that saltiest1.
If you relate to them they will see you as a human being and make allowances rather than generating fear and loathing amongst themselves. But I guess you know that 
. ... Could be too late for that too i.d.k.
Having kids is probably the biggest challenge of my life so far. Forget high school, drivers licence, single phase motors, PLC's or maximum demand. How about the carve gybe or forward loops? These challenges in my life have been a walk in the park compared to the birth and raising my two kids who are now 7 and 4. When I think about it they have had so very little life experience. For instance my 4 year old has only been alive for 4 whole years! He has only just started kindy this year. They know absolutely nothing. Ive enjoyed seeing both my kids experience first things. Like their first step, their first tooth etc etc etc. A lot of firsts are still happening. Its up to us as parents to guide them and teach them correct principles and allow them to govern themselves. Its tough, real tough but rewarding. Kids also feel things to the extreme. Like when you walk in front of them they yell out WAIT, COME BACK! But your only 5 metres away. Or if they hurt their finger they need a kiss and a band aid to make it all better. We just need to cut them some slack. Help them with their problems because we have so much more experience in life than they have.
People who have had kids and have grown up and moved out usually forget what it was like and are quick to judge. Or people who dont have kids think how easy it would be and are quick to give advise based on nothing.
As for me I consider myself a pretty easy going dad. Relaxed and chilled. I want to be approachable. I want to be the worlds best dad.
Thats my 2c
Barbie is obviously struggling and trying to get some advise, the problem is with the facts, evidence and interpretation plus how a story is written.
Barbies problem is a big one and I feel her expression was one of reaching for assistance rather than ranting, the other guys probably are dealing from an experience or a "If that had happened to my child) point of view, fair enough! ...... I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS IS THE CASE, JUST MY OPINION (Not interested on stepping on toes)
Thats why I bailed and hope that Barbie gets it sorted and the guys dont judge based on a more complicated story that has only been partly addressed.
Again good luck Barbie.
Cheers GT
NO_FRIENDS sounds like me
Your son is normal there is no cause for concern
He will meet and pick up friends who he has common interests with once he settles in to a new social substructure..
I beileve that the violent streak is a bad thing. resorting in violence is a last result and is used by undiplomatic people who have verbal comunication trouble.
violence should not be encouraged and should be dealt with acordingly.
although he is still very young the underlyn fact is that he cant expect to play with everyone(like a puppiedog)In life we often even as adults we often meet a wide variety of personas and personality types we dont get along with..e.g a workforce so we distance ourselves from the subconciously with out a judgement.
its better your youngin finds this out when he is 4 years old and not 18 years old.
I think that the problem is exceptance. and in life not everyone excepts you but there is no need to be violent its as simple as walking away.
i think insted of a you-beaut remote controlled car you could gain much more out of a gunnei pig rabbit or some sort of animal (mabe a dog or cat ) that he will find a freind..
this will emphasize love and responcibility and exceptance .
insted of stessing and continually highlighting his bad points you can simply use the "fun theory" to build knoldedge and understanding and learning of his strengths.
In all honesty barbie i think you have come to the correct forums for help.
windsurfing kitesurfing is a non team sport.
When i go out im all alone i challenge myself i dont try and impress other people i dont make friends.
it just me and my best friend ....the wind and water.
mabe there is a peice of your son in everyone...............?
Hmmm please what was the original thread it sounds nice and controversial I would like to read it :)
I hope no ones feelings were hurt in the 'said' thread? 
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57498
this topic is a better read !!!!!
