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iPhone 5S security chip

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Created by FlySurfer > 9 months ago, 22 Sep 2012
FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
22 Sep 2012 4:36PM
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The iPhone 5s will feature an NFC chip and another NFC chip which can be implanted under the skin in your hand to unlock the device, thus increasing security.
The sub-epidermis NFC chip is 60% smaller than a grain of rice and is intended to stay there indefinitely as it will require no upgrading because it's only used to transmit a 256bit AES public key with their phone, and any future phones.
Apple's Tim Cook believes with ever increasing amounts of private information held on a phone the existing security measures are inadequate.
They trailed Iris, and finger print scanning but found it to be too slow and unreliable in many situations, like dark environments or where the users hands were covered.

iOS6 supports NFC to unlock the device and Passbook also includes support for NFC, but the hardware wasn't included in the iPhone 5 as the payment gateway wasn't ready, nor the regulatory approvals for the epidermis chip applicator.
Apple is expected to introduce the iPhone 5S in the fall of 2013 with support for American Express ExpressPay, Mastercard PayPass and Visa PayWave.

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I guess they're getting the info out sooner than usual cos of the novel under skin chip.
I think that's pretty cool, no more passwords/pins, just pick the phone and it knows who I am.
Would also make payments much more secure.
I bet Android will do this too as most new handsets already have NFC readers, and at least Apple is using the open NFC standard.

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edition.cnn.com/travel/article/mobile-airport-travel-apps/index.html

poor relative
WA, 9106 posts
22 Sep 2012 3:51PM
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Cue petermac.....

busterwa
3782 posts
22 Sep 2012 4:14PM
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The only good thing the iphone 1,2,3,4,5 is good for is making dumb and lazy people more dumb and lazy.! And 5 times as broke !!!
Haters gonna hate!
Apple the king of making people pay for **** thats they dont really need.

worrier
WA, 726 posts
22 Sep 2012 5:48PM
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busterwa said...

The only good thing the iphone 1,2,3,4,5 is good for is making dumb and lazy people more dumb and lazy.! And 5 times as broke !!!
Haters gonna hate!
Apple the king of making people pay for **** thats they dont really need.


pretty heavy chip on ya shoulder there man Its a phone? not sure why you could hate apple so much?
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GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
22 Sep 2012 9:43PM
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April already is it?



I like that link "secret plan" description, yeah right.

From the article itself the details were lodged by Apple in a 2008 patent application. Hardly new. Hardly secret.

I heard the new phone connected to your... well watch the clip and find out...

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
22 Sep 2012 10:40PM
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What a crock of crap ..... This new iPhone is using a different charger , carnt use the dock peripheral crap ....... Buy new rubbish to go with it .....

And they expect people to inject a security device under there skin , only to find that it's not compatable with the next model ........ Ioff apple !!!!!!!!!

dafrog
321 posts
22 Sep 2012 11:41PM
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not sure why you could hate apple so much?


BecausHe it tasHte sHo good!!!

rod_bunny
WA, 1089 posts
23 Sep 2012 3:10AM
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NFC is great... if you only have one of them.

Ever since I got my paypass card, my transperth smartrider card card wont work in my wallet anymore.

All that time I save 'waving' my paypass card a couple of times a week VS the friggin around 4-5 times every day with the smartrider.

Jman
VIC, 881 posts
23 Sep 2012 11:26AM
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Go to any shopping center and look and see how many people of all ages are staring down at there smart phones as they walk around or sitting down eating or whatever. Its amazing how much influence a small piece of electronic **** can have over people.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
23 Sep 2012 11:33AM
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Some one once said "In the land of the blind, the one eyed monster reigns supreme."

The one eyed monster has morphed from the TV screen to the computer screen and now to the phone screen.

1984 here we come.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

worrier
WA, 726 posts
23 Sep 2012 10:24AM
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Jman said...

Go to any shopping center and look and see how many people of all ages are staring down at there smart phones as they walk around or sitting down eating or whatever. Its amazing how much influence a small piece of electronic **** can have over people.


Yeah its crazy. I used the MRT system in Singapore for a couple of weeks and they have free internet on the trains. Everyone looked pretty calm and happy though doing their thing on the train
Might not be a bad thing after all. Love to see it on the Perth trains might calm down some of the aggro
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Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
23 Sep 2012 12:15PM
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SandS said...

What a crock of crap ..... This new iPhone is using a different charger , carnt use the dock peripheral crap ....... Buy new rubbish to go with it .....

And they expect people to inject a security device under there skin , only to find that it's not compatable with the next model ........ Ioff apple !!!!!!!!!


Yes it's a pain in the butt, especially if you have lots of $$$ tied up in peripheral devices, but at least we got 4 or 5 generations of the one plug before they changed it. I can't say the same for a lot of other devices I've had.

Mark _australia
WA, 23706 posts
23 Sep 2012 12:53PM
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Don't have that problem with a 'puter for 'putin and a phone fer talkin on

AquaPlow
QLD, 1066 posts
23 Sep 2012 2:57PM
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2 Things
1). JIC - Regardless of brand U need to be aware......

http://technologyspectator.com.au/how-safe-your-smartphone?utm_source=Technology+Spectator+List&utm_campaign=032a5a51ca-TECH_SPEC_DAILY&utm_medium=email

2) The IPHONE 4S was all the rave just a few short months ago - so the price is bound to come down from the stratosphere - given Apple are shoveling them out the factory at $6.45 they are still making a healthy wack - and lets face it most their money is made thru' the IStore....

Cheers

AP

Also - the motherboards of some smart phones are now coming on the market for $30-40 so is a very cheep framework for a computer - aka rasperry pie...

thetechjournal.com/tech-news/uks-35-raspberry-pi-model-b-sold-out-on-launch-within-minutes.xhtml

Really smart

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
24 Sep 2012 1:14PM
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FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
25 Sep 2012 1:36PM
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Reflex Films
WA, 1463 posts
25 Sep 2012 12:06PM
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A Brilliant short that brings up many valid issues in a very stylish way.

While cameras let you see light and landscapes with an accelerated appreciation they also can take you away from just enjoying the moment.

So many of these images just end up on hard drives / wiped / viewd for 3 seconds on facebook - small benefit for so many cameras being waved around at concerts , parties, restaurants , bars,

So be selective , choose your moments and try printing the good shots out to a book. And dont forget to enjoy real life.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
25 Sep 2012 2:11PM
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...just wondering how strong the magnetic field would have to be to wipe out my hard drive, and whether I shouldn't be more scared of cars falling from the sky.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
25 Sep 2012 3:45PM
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evlPanda said...

...just wondering how strong the magnetic field would have to be to wipe out my hard drive, and whether I shouldn't be more scared of cars falling from the sky.


HDD's fail at a rate of ~2%... OCZ SSD's at ~5%.
You'd die well before a solar storm killed your HDD, and Google/AWS have server famrs everywhere... but your account could be compromised.



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