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non rip off aid organisations??

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Created by BennyB12 > 9 months ago, 13 Nov 2013
BennyB12
QLD, 918 posts
13 Nov 2013 7:43PM
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Hey, Id like to help the people in the Philippines but i have been taken for a ride with
certain organisations before where 75 percent of my donation ended up in some company pocket for
collection costs....
Anyone know of a good organisation that will see a majority of my coin find the right mouth to feed?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
13 Nov 2013 8:55PM
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I too would like to would like to give a donation to help the Filipino people out after such a terrible event. However I'm afraid any donation I give will end up in the pockets of the people who need it least. I know from first hand experience someone who recevied a lot of money that was donated to help the victims of the earthquakes in China. That person was living in Australia at the time of the earthquakes. It makes me quite disolusioned about charities.



Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
13 Nov 2013 9:59PM
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Best way would be to support the organisations that are physically assisting with clean up, distributing food and water... or get onto an organisation that will allow you to go there and help with the rebuilding.

I'd love to, but with 3 young kids at home - my role is here.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
13 Nov 2013 9:44PM
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Find a good secular one & I'm in

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
13 Nov 2013 11:06PM
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It pays to do your homework. The organisations that you know about spend a lot of money on advertising, which is obviously why you know about them. The ones with low overhead are lesser known.

A few years ago I downloaded the annual reports of a lot of organisations to work out which I wanted to use. I ended up choosing Compassion Australia. They have about 20% overhead, so 80% is going where it's needed.

Sorry Kiteboy, they are a Christian organisation, although if you choose to donate to one of their fully tax deductible funds, then at least you know the money is going to aid and relief, and not bible distribution, so maybe that will float your boat (or fly your kite ).

www.compassion.com.au/

www.compassion.com.au/content/typhoon-haiyan/gkkegp

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
13 Nov 2013 11:07PM
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I was involved in the PNG Tsunami in 98 was there for the actual event and subsequent clean up . I was shocked by what I can only describe as the industry of disaster and the desire for the money shot. So I understand what you are saying

That being said dont get dragged into what I found as a very grey argument. Disasters cost money to run and the reality is for every bag of rice someone somewhere needs to be on a PC doing something boring and what is viewed upon as irrelevant. "I want my money to go directly to those who need it " well right now those people just want to be fed, medicated and housed the majority of the cost to implement those three things will be in logistics . So don't be concerned with a percentage of your coin going to running cost its just as important .

So I would be looking to two organisations

MSF (medicons sans frontier) doctors without borders this will support the make shift hospitals they were in my experience the ones that got **** done .

The second is Caritas international which is a catholic run aid org . Don't be put of by the religious bit . In the Philippians like a lot of undeveloped countries the church runs the schools hospitals workshops for the poor basically they are the local council. Caritas is a direct link to those diocese ( local councils ) Also in my experience the ones that got **** done .

Hope that helps

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
13 Nov 2013 8:09PM
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Sailhack said..

Best way would be to support the organisations that are physically assisting with clean up, distributing food and water... or get onto an organisation that will allow you to go there and help with the rebuilding.

I'd love to, but with 3 young kids at home - my role is here.


I agree. Well said. Also, donating food and clothing goes along way.

sn
WA, 2775 posts
13 Nov 2013 8:12PM
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As a rule of thumb, any fundraising by the Salvo's used to result in over 97 cents in the dollar hitting the streets.
I see no reason why it would have changed- so if the Salvo's are doing thier bit in the Phillipines you can be pretty sure your donation is doing its job.

my choice for donations-
Salvo's get my cash, [and I have collected for them many times as well]
Red Cross get my blood and whatever cash I can spare,
I tried giving the cat haven's collector, next doors cat last time they ignored our go away sign, and got them confused

I refuse to donate to anyone else collecting as they are all too often "commission collectors"

stephen

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
13 Nov 2013 8:16PM
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Every week I donate to the the Australian Government and God knows what they do with it.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
13 Nov 2013 8:39PM
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Without trying to bag medicins sans frontier, I did sign up to donate to them regularly, however, when i sat down and read through the reams of fine print I discovered that in the first year of your 5 year donation plan 80% went to the financial organization in sydney that processes all the electronic donations. it wasnt until the 5th year that MSF recieved more than 80% of the donated money.
personally I would try the salvos, lots of volunteers and you can give as you can afford. my daughter spends alot of her time on occasions like this shaking a tin, god bless her

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
14 Nov 2013 9:09AM
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Harrow said..
Sorry Kiteboy, they are a Christian organisation, although if you choose to donate to one of their fully tax deductible funds, then at least you know the money is going to aid and relief, and not bible distribution, so maybe that will float your boat (or fly your kite ).


Nope, it doesn't. This is a relevant issue for me, one of my old neighbors was very religious, and used to collect charity bread from Brumbies and give to the homeless. They used to bring us left over bread products all the time, and hammer us with requests to support all their religious charities. One day I had to draw the line, I went over and explained very politely that there were thousands of charities competing for my dollar, almost all of them worthy causes well worth supporting, so all things being equal I'd prefer to support those in line with my own beliefs. I never received a bread product again, in fact barely a hello. Which I found quite unchristian.

Thanks for the red thumbs above fellas, also very christian Red-thumbers take a second to picture yourselves choosing to give to a Muslim charity collecting for the Typhoon. Would you?

I will donate to Oxfam
http://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies/philippines-typhoon-haiyan
They have a good rate of delivery - 5% admin costs, 21% invested to make money
www.oxfam.org.nz/donate-online/where-your-money-goes

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
14 Nov 2013 10:31AM
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^^^ We're not Christian, but my wife gets free loaves of bread from Bakers Delight & delivers them to local primary & a special-needs school (where she works) so that kids with thoughtless parents who don't bother to pack their lunches can eat through the day...does that count as charitable?

If money is all you have to give, make sure you do your research as said above...if you have some time - donate that, it's just as important and will give you a better return in your own peace of mind.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
14 Nov 2013 10:42AM
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kiteboy dave said..
I will donate to Oxfam
http://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies/philippines-typhoon-haiyan
They have a good rate of delivery - 5% admin costs, 21% invested to make money
www.oxfam.org.nz/donate-online/where-your-money-goes


Donated cost of 1 carton. Now I will walk to the fridge 24 times, and return with empty hands but a little inner glow

I noticed this on Oxfam's page, specifically for emergency appeals

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
14 Nov 2013 12:17PM
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Mobydisc said..
It makes me quite disolusioned about charities.


They way some of the MAJOR ONES have been calling me up lately I feel like nothing more than a resource. The marketing tactics they use are unpleasant.

"First of all thank you so much for all of your donations so far."
translation: "You've been flagged as someone very likely to give us more money, again."

Charity is not viewing me as a resource.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
14 Nov 2013 12:19PM
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Pitbull said..

Every week I donate to the the Australian Government and God knows what they do with it.


My 10% tithe goes to the church of superannuation/stock market/financial gods each week.

sn
WA, 2775 posts
14 Nov 2013 11:39AM
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I just received an email from Rommel Juan [owner of the phillipines company that makes reproduction jeep bodies]

His advice is for Americans [similar probably works for Aussies too] to donate via these organisations:

American Red Cross, they have volunteers spread throughout the region, donations via online.

AmerCares, has a shipment good for 20000 people on the way- along with medical teams

UN World food program, active in the area, donations via online.

Phillipines Red Cross- donate online.

Or, the Salvation Army Typhoon Haiyan relief effort, via the salvo's website.
Rommel states that 100% of the donations to the salvos will hit the ground as disaster relief.


stephen

WA71
WA, 1382 posts
14 Nov 2013 11:57AM
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kony12

PaddlePig
WA, 421 posts
14 Nov 2013 8:42PM
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Thanks for the red thumbs above fellas, also very christian Red-thumbers take a second to picture yourselves choosing to give to a Muslim charity collecting for the Typhoon. Would you?



Just for the record I never red thumbed anyone. And this post isn't directed at anyone. But I like the Muslim comparison . With all the bagging out of Christianity in the topic and other threads, I wonder if people would bag other religions the same way. Not that I'd want that. Didn't mean to hijack the topic.

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
15 Nov 2013 3:06PM
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UNICEF are really good: (73 cents program reach in the dollar)

www.unicef.org.au/donate/donate-once

Also World Vision do a good job: (76 cents program reach in the dollar)

www.worldvision.com.au/Home.aspx

Both confirmed from reviewing annual statements.....


Get involved....





*Who cares what religion a charity is.... if they are helping people then good.....

Pugwash
WA, 7733 posts
15 Nov 2013 3:31PM
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Not sure for the Philippines...

Here two non rip off aid organisations for Africa:

www.foodwatershelter.org.au/

goldertrust.org/

Marvin
WA, 725 posts
15 Nov 2013 5:33PM
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Again, non - Phillippines related:

I make a monthly donation to www.kiva.org - this is a micro lending organisation so the money goes around and around and around.

99% of the loans are repaid to go around again.

100% of the money specified to be lent is lent - although I tick the optional 12% additional payment box to help with the administrative costs.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
15 Nov 2013 7:53PM
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evlPanda said...
Mobydisc said..
It makes me quite disolusioned about charities.


They way some of the MAJOR ONES have been calling me up lately I feel like nothing more than a resource. The marketing tactics they use are unpleasant.

"First of all thank you so much for all of your donations so far."
translation: "You've been flagged as someone very likely to give us more money, again."

Charity is not viewing me as a resource.




Your mistake there is giving correct info. I don't see why they need anything other than correct credit card info. Rest I make up.

*this applies to 95% of non shopping/shipping related web forms i fill in

Razzonater
2224 posts
15 Nov 2013 9:43PM
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I donate to surf aid when I can afford it, grass roots organization and they give out mozzie nets and first aid kits etc, I don't think or know if there in phillipenes but I've seen first hand what they do so I suppose I've seen the real life results



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