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sinking the Adelaide

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Created by DUDE > 9 months ago, 24 Mar 2010
DUDE
NSW, 1132 posts
24 Mar 2010 6:57PM
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just heard on ten news that they are not going through with the sinking , a court has delayed it ..is this good or bad???

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Mar 2010 4:18PM
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Very low care factor, in fact who would care?

tobes
NSW, 1000 posts
24 Mar 2010 8:11PM
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I'm always for people protesting against potential environmental damage.
Having said that, I think if the wreck is as clean as possible, the eventual outcome will be positive. An artificial reef system that will support a lot of marine life and a popular local tourism attraction.
Hopefully the appeal forces the navy to prove that the wreck is as safe and clean as possible.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Mar 2010 5:36PM
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We should also dump nuclear waste in Nedlands

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
24 Mar 2010 5:48PM
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Ive just had a thought, the only one today, they should just ram into Scarbough Beach. Then the sand will build up on each side so then we will have a left and a right all year!

ka43
NSW, 3105 posts
24 Mar 2010 10:36PM
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It was on the news here the other night. The ship is as bare bones as it gets. From the footage there is basically nothing left to salvage. Its going to be sunk off Avoca beach on the central coast of NSW. Lots of locals trying to stop it but the government said it is going to happen this Saturday.
Live coverage on Channel 7 I think.
We have had several ferries and warships scuttled off Sydney over the years.
As Tobes said they turn into great reefs and are a boon for divers and wildlife.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
25 Mar 2010 9:47AM
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tobes said...

I'm always for people protesting against potential environmental damage.
Having said that, I think if the wreck is as clean as possible, the eventual outcome will be positive. An artificial reef system that will support a lot of marine life and a popular local tourism attraction.
Hopefully the appeal forces the navy to prove that the wreck is as safe and clean as possible.


THere are very strict environmental guidelines when a sinking is being executed, the ship needs to be completely stripped of all oils, fuels & chemicals and any solids that may break down over a short period and cause harm to the biodiversity...the argument that recycling would be a better option is a bit anti-green as the energy needed to do this defeats the purpose. However, by sinking the ship, they can create a man-made reef in locations that can increase sea-life of all kinds, and they are a great tourist attraction for divers!

Ben 555
NSW, 456 posts
25 Mar 2010 10:10AM
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This ship is supposed to be a new generation of "greener" ships - lead free paint, pcb free etc....it craps me off huge the enviro reports have been freely available, location chosen for some time etc but the local nimbies....

My diving mates tell me they are chomping at the bit to get to it

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
25 Mar 2010 1:53PM
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doggie said...

Ive just had a thought, the only one today, they should just ram into Scarbough Beach. Then the sand will build up on each side so then we will have a left and a right all year!

I wish they would do something like that.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
25 Mar 2010 2:32PM
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Legion said...

doggie said...

Ive just had a thought, the only one today, they should just ram into Scarbough Beach. Then the sand will build up on each side so then we will have a left and a right all year!

I wish they would do something like that.


All they have to do is build a bit of a groyne so the sand builds up on either side, BINGO perfect banks all year!

j murray
SA, 947 posts
25 Mar 2010 7:08PM
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ABC or SBS did a doco some months ago about prepping and sinking one in NZ

I think it may have been off Auckland where they put it down. They , the

people charged with doing the job were very thorough, as the contract stated,

and they must have received a packet for the sinking, but they worked for it.

All round the world it is happening, maybe some of those against it don't really

have much of an understanding of life. possibly they should be sent down to

Davy Jhonse's Locker too, give the world a break [}:)][}:)]

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
25 Mar 2010 5:25PM
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j murray said...


ABC or SBS did a doco some months ago about prepping and sinking one in NZ

I think it may have been off Auckland where they put it down. They , the

people charged with doing the job were very thorough, as the contract stated,

and they must have received a packet for the sinking, but they worked for it.

All round the world it is happening, maybe some of those against it don't really

have much of an understanding of life. possibly they should be sent down to

Davy Jhonse's Locker too, give the world a break [}:)][}:)]


Its just a cheap way to get rid of old ships, why dont they recycle the steel so we dont have to mine more iron ore?

shark
WA, 361 posts
25 Mar 2010 6:28PM
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doggie said...

Its just a cheap way to get rid of old ships, why dont they recycle the steel so we dont have to mine more iron ore?


you might find that it isnt that cheap. The enviro side of it is pretty onerous and only economic as a lot of volunteers are usually involved. Ships are usually taken to India to be broken up.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
26 Mar 2010 9:24AM
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shark said...

doggie said...

Its just a cheap way to get rid of old ships, why dont they recycle the steel so we dont have to mine more iron ore?


you might find that it isnt that cheap. The enviro side of it is pretty onerous and only economic as a lot of volunteers are usually involved. Ships are usually taken to India to be broken up.


Unfortunately, slave labour is a better option for the environment?!? The energy used for recycling the metals makes it a 'non-green' option, and not an economic one either. IN a perfect world with unlimited energy - definitely.

Crash Landing
NSW, 1173 posts
26 Mar 2010 9:39AM
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FYI Manly Fast Ferries are doing a day trip from Circular Quay/Darling Harbour to the site. Quite expensive but could be of interest to some people.

Cheers

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
26 Mar 2010 9:13AM
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