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sodium in bread

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Created by myusernam > 9 months ago, 8 Jul 2012
myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
8 Jul 2012 3:08PM
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ok no chem trails, canola or flouride but WTF is the go with all the salt in bread. How can I limit my family's intake? Can't be good...

James
WA, 549 posts
8 Jul 2012 1:15PM
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If everyone makes enough noise about it , Labor will seize the opportunity to slap a tax on it, to finance their ongoing ineptitude. Problem solved , J

stamp
QLD, 2800 posts
8 Jul 2012 3:30PM
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make your own. it's cheaper too

paulford
WA, 312 posts
8 Jul 2012 3:02PM
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stamp said...

make your own. it's cheaper too


It'll probably keep longer as well, like bread used to back in the day.

Hunter S
WA, 516 posts
8 Jul 2012 3:33PM
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paulford said...

stamp said...

make your own. it's cheaper too


It'll probably keep longer as well, like bread used to back in the day.


What - like before they started putting preservatives in it?

tmurray
WA, 485 posts
8 Jul 2012 4:03PM
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Shop bought bread lasts WAY longer than home made. Home made bread normally gets eaten so fast it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the salt in bread - most people without kidney or heart disease handle salt really well and it's way easier to cut salt in other products. Sugar on the other hand.....

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
8 Jul 2012 7:15PM
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stamp said...

make your own. it's cheaper too


the premade flour mixes are pretty high in salt also..

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
8 Jul 2012 7:15PM
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tmurray said...

Shop bought bread lasts WAY longer than home made. Home made bread normally gets eaten so fast it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the salt in bread - most people without kidney or heart disease handle salt really well and it's way easier to cut salt in other products. Sugar on the other hand.....


how do you think you get heart disease?!

Wanga F One
QLD, 231 posts
8 Jul 2012 8:27PM
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myusernam said...

tmurray said...

Shop bought bread lasts WAY longer than home made. Home made bread normally gets eaten so fast it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the salt in bread - most people without kidney or heart disease handle salt really well and it's way easier to cut salt in other products. Sugar on the other hand.....


how do you think you get heart disease?!

Genes.

stamp
QLD, 2800 posts
8 Jul 2012 8:30PM
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myusernam said...

stamp said...

make your own. it's cheaper too


the premade flour mixes are pretty high in salt also..


there is no need for premixed stuff, it's only bread: buy some flour, sugar, yeast, and salt (yes you need a little bit), put it in a bowl, mix the bejesus out of it, then cook the ****.
there are plenty of recipes on the net if you need to refine this method a little.

Mark _australia
WA, 23709 posts
8 Jul 2012 7:01PM
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How much salt is in bread anyway? Would not have thought it much - half a teaspoon per loaf?
Anyone know?

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
8 Jul 2012 9:50PM
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RDI is something like 2400mg and most bread is 450 - 600 mg per hundered grams.


On average, people in western countries eat 10-20 times the recommended intake of sodium, in the form of salt. The RDI is 920 - 2300mg of salt per day

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
8 Jul 2012 9:57PM
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Then add slabs of butter and vegimite .. Mmmmm

Mark _australia
WA, 23709 posts
8 Jul 2012 7:57PM
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myusernam said...

RDI is something like 2400mg and most bread is 450 - 600 mg per hundered grams.


On average, people in western countries eat 10-20 times the recommended intake of sodium, in the form of salt. The RDI is 920 - 2300mg of salt per day


That would be about 4 slices?
So yes it is too much but not if the rest of your diet is unprocessed foods.

I have way more salt than that, but drink heaps of beer to flush it out.
If you wee every 20mins the sodium is gone

roder
27 posts
8 Jul 2012 8:14PM
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mmmm beeeer

stamp
QLD, 2800 posts
8 Jul 2012 10:18PM
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salt was the enemy in the 80s and 90s. then it was sugar. then fat. then caffeine. carbs were the latest deadly killer. looks like we're back to salt again.

Mark _australia
WA, 23709 posts
8 Jul 2012 8:22PM
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You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that

Macroscien
QLD, 6809 posts
8 Jul 2012 11:23PM
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I don't really bother by sodium in the bread, but I must say that I am seriously annoyed at amount of salt added to popcorn at any cinema.
Excuse to force you to buy a drink - Cola- at same time is not enough since amount of salt is seriously toxic.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
9 Jul 2012 5:02PM
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Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that


This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
9 Jul 2012 5:10PM
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evlPanda said...

Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that


This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

Lie a fridge down? because the oil runs out of the compressor sump.
Turn it off? because the seals dry out

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
9 Jul 2012 4:01PM
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Interlocking corporate directorships, that is individuals who sit on the boards of multiple different corporations are the problem.
Why do you think there is now sugar in nearly every processed food item?
People on the boards of the companies who make and distribute sugar(in all it's forms) also sit on the boards of the companies who make these processed foods.
Sugar and salt make foods taste good, problem is it's bad for you and they need to keep adding more because you get used to it.
TBS salt is not so bad as sugar.
Why is it necessary to have sugar in salad dressing? potato crisps? what's next? sugar in salt?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
9 Jul 2012 6:13PM
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myusernam said...

evlPanda said...

Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that


This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

Lie a fridge down? because the oil runs out of the compressor sump.
Turn it off? because the seals dry out




Hmmm. Sounds legit.

I asked my dad about this, who's been servicing refrigerators since the 60's, and his dad before him since the 30's (I guess). They have always laid fridges on their side while transporting. I've helped countless times, and turned them on immediately at the customer's house. We're talking 80 years of probably 3 fridges transported each week, plus another brother doing the same, and they've never once had a problem. They call it a myth, not just because of the numbers but because they cut them open all the time too. Actually, refrigeration is a pretty interesting science.

I want to get to the bottom of this as much as more than anyone. Will report back on whether myth is busted or legit. I suspect it depends on the type of fridge (commercial/household)



edit: In the interim I found, amongst a zillion pages talking about oil, the following from another refrigerator mechanic:


drtom4444
May 20, 2011, 08:32 AM
It does no harm to lay down a refrigerator while moving it. I have been a refrigeration mechanic for 35 years and have done this many times and never had a problem. Today's compressors have springs and retainers to keep the compressor in the right position. Just stand it up and wait about 5 minutes and plug it in. Make sure the drain pan is setting correctly on the bottom of the unit and you are okay. This myth about not laying down a refrigerator started when compressors were first built and they had poor retainers inside. This has been corrected for about 70-80 years now but the myth refuses to die. You should never run a compressor that is more than 10% out of level, however. DrTom4444
www.askmehelpdesk.com/advice/t-577017.html




Bonus points: Why is a 'd' added when shortening "refrigerator" to "fridge"?

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
9 Jul 2012 6:51PM
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evlPanda said...

myusernam said...

evlPanda said...

Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that


This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

Lie a fridge down? because the oil runs out of the compressor sump.
Turn it off? because the seals dry out




Hmmm. Sounds legit.

I asked my dad about this, who's been servicing refrigerators since the 60's, and his dad before him since the 30's (I guess). They have always laid fridges on their side while transporting. I've helped countless times, and turned them on immediately at the customer's house. We're talking 80 years of probably 3 fridges transported each week, plus another brother doing the same, and they've never once had a problem. They call it a myth, not just because of the numbers but because they cut them open all the time too. Actually, refrigeration is a pretty interesting science.

I want to get to the bottom of this as much as more than anyone. Will report back on whether myth is busted or legit. I suspect it depends on the type of fridge (commercial/household)



edit: In the interim I found, amongst a zillion pages talking about oil, the following from another refrigerator mechanic:


drtom4444
May 20, 2011, 08:32 AM
It does no harm to lay down a refrigerator while moving it. I have been a refrigeration mechanic for 35 years and have done this many times and never had a problem. Today's compressors have springs and retainers to keep the compressor in the right position. Just stand it up and wait about 5 minutes and plug it in. Make sure the drain pan is setting correctly on the bottom of the unit and you are okay. This myth about not laying down a refrigerator started when compressors were first built and they had poor retainers inside. This has been corrected for about 70-80 years now but the myth refuses to die. You should never run a compressor that is more than 10% out of level, however. DrTom4444
www.askmehelpdesk.com/advice/t-577017.html




Bonus points: Why is a 'd' added when shortening "refrigerator" to "fridge"?



hmm. my frij came with a thing in the instructions saying not to turn it on for several hours after it had been laid on it's side.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Jul 2012 4:57PM
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evlPanda said...

myusernam said...

evlPanda said...

Mark _australia said...

You can eat whatever the hell you want as long as it is 99% fat free.
My kid's lollies are actually marked 99% fat free. Well duh.

Can't believe the people who fall for that


This. Dog **** is probably 99% fat free too. And fat doesn't make you fat anyway, which is the crux of the ads.

And people that think you can't lie a refrigerator down, or have to leave it standing in the off position for a while. I asked the guy that delivered a new one the other day "why?"

Lie a fridge down? because the oil runs out of the compressor sump.
Turn it off? because the seals dry out




Hmmm. Sounds legit.

I asked my dad about this, who's been servicing refrigerators since the 60's, and his dad before him since the 30's (I guess). They have always laid fridges on their side while transporting. I've helped countless times, and turned them on immediately at the customer's house. We're talking 80 years of probably 3 fridges transported each week, plus another brother doing the same, and they've never once had a problem. They call it a myth, not just because of the numbers but because they cut them open all the time too. Actually, refrigeration is a pretty interesting science.

I want to get to the bottom of this as much as more than anyone. Will report back on whether myth is busted or legit. I suspect it depends on the type of fridge (commercial/household)



edit: In the interim I found, amongst a zillion pages talking about oil, the following from another refrigerator mechanic:


drtom4444
May 20, 2011, 08:32 AM
It does no harm to lay down a refrigerator while moving it. I have been a refrigeration mechanic for 35 years and have done this many times and never had a problem. Today's compressors have springs and retainers to keep the compressor in the right position. Just stand it up and wait about 5 minutes and plug it in. Make sure the drain pan is setting correctly on the bottom of the unit and you are okay. This myth about not laying down a refrigerator started when compressors were first built and they had poor retainers inside. This has been corrected for about 70-80 years now but the myth refuses to die. You should never run a compressor that is more than 10% out of level, however. DrTom4444
www.askmehelpdesk.com/advice/t-577017.html




Bonus points: Why is a 'd' added when shortening "refrigerator" to "fridge"?




If you left the d out frige you sound French and we cant have that can we?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
13 Jul 2012 10:15AM
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My dad:

Total myth. I get at least one person a month calling me up about this. One woman called me back and abused me because someone else told her she would ruin her fridge if she didn't let it stand for a day. Every single refrigeration mechanic in the world will tell you the same thing. Total myth.

I guess it's like Global Warming. What could a person that lives and breathe the topic possibly know about the subject? Common sense tells us otherwise.

______________________

Bit of fun with cognitive dissonance:
I buy a bat and ball for $1.10. The bat cost $1 more than the ball.
How much did the ball cost?

Carantoc
WA, 7298 posts
13 Jul 2012 8:47AM
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Hey evlPanda, you owe me some vouchers for Wollies

I just laid my fridge down because you said it would be OK.

Guess what -

The milk spilt out of the carton
The butter smeared all over the door
The eggs all smashed
The lettuce got squashed by the juice

People - do not lay your fridges down. Keep them upright.

SP
10982 posts
13 Jul 2012 8:54AM
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Hmmm. Sounds legit.

I asked my dad about this, who's been servicing refrigerators since the 60's, and his dad before /advice/t-577017.html

Bonus points: Why is a 'd' added when shortening "refrigerator" to "fridge"?




I'll have a shot.

Cause fridge is from the brand name Frigidaire Refrigerators, shortened and adopted as the common name.

And the laying down your fridge thing is a myth, at one time with the old gases, compressors etc, they thought they'd stuff up or leak..



And the Ball was 5 cents, bat was $1.05.



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