www.perthnow.com.au/news/killer-shark-at-rottnest-island-to-be-hunted-down-ng-3ceba39507467de8fb8c7d0759aefe71
Was down at the dog beach this morning and saw dog's out in the water after balls and horses swimming and even mentioned to my wife that it looked "sharky".
It's October combined with it being completely overcast, mirror flat water, murky water it looked ominous. 
Yeah I went down the beach this morning and thought the same thing BD, It was a real weird looking ocean wasn't it.
Great White sharks are not an endangered species and they should not be protected. They have become a clear and indiscriminate threat to humans across the globe and they need to be culled, if not outright hunted to extinction. As apex predators, they lie at the very end of the foodchain, and their elimination would be largely inconsequential from an ecological perspective.
^^^don't start another shark culling discussion, there are more of them than arguments about strapped v unstrapped.
sorry to hear about the fatality, condolences to family
If someone enters the ocean, they risk the fact that a marine creature could harm them.
If you don't like the odds of something happening go buy a paddling pool.
There is no doubt that fatal white attacks are getting much more common. THe average used to be about 1 every 18 months - 2yrs in W.A .
Thats 3 in a very small space of time. I know Abalone divers who used to have the odd encounter on isolated occasions . Now seeing a white is very common for these blokes.
Numbers of sharks on the rise + number of peeps in the water = more shark attacks.
I just hope the one that gets me is really big and does it in one go. I dont want to be like the black knight in the HOLy grail and go one limb at a time.....
Anyway gotta go and service the outboard on the dinghy to get reagy for ROck lobster season. Hope the sharkies are all gone south by then........
Condolences to the family. But today I thought all day........what a sharkie day and I'm 20 min. from the beach.
You just know something is up.......dark, warm, no visibility, still........just that happy time for the stealth hunter.
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And your ecological qualifications are?
For what it is worth: a PhD in Biological Sciences from one of the World's leading Universities, and 30+ years of scientific research.
There is ample scientific, and anecdotal, evidence for my previous statement, but I am open to considering any well-considered evidence to the contrary.
Biologists typically study single species, populations, genus or families, whilst ecologists study relationships between species within an ecosystem. I know plenty of highly skilled biologists who are nonetheless incapable of thinking systemically. I'm not saying you're one of them but you're sure acting that way.
Do you seriously believe that removing an apex predator will have no major effects? What do sharks eat? What species numbers are regulated by sharks? What happens if their numbers explode? What do the things that sharks eat eat? ... and so on
From other angles - What eats dead sharks? What diseases are regulated by the activities of sharks? What migratory patterns are to some extent not just followed but also driven by sharks? What microbes and parasites are carried by sharks and what is their role in ocean systems?
For each such question (to which we have incomplete answers) there will be many more that we can't even pose because our knowledge of ecology is always imperfect. We mess with it at our peril.
For a good read I recommend "The Diversity of Life" by E.O. Wilson. He's a great writer, scholar, biologist, and philosopher of science and this is one of his major works. www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?recid=30855&content=book
So sorry for the family and their loss. Makes you wonder if it is just bad luck or we have a rouge shark, I know that numbers are up with seals and the whales are still very much around. Wonder why they don't just tag these big sharks I know it's not a simple job but what's the point of the beckons if they don't tag the big ones.
Really at the end of the day, shark or not will it stop you doing the thing you love most
If so you shouldnt be on the water
Getting a bit too often, I think we have a problem.
Dogs get put down if they maul someone, same with a lion or tiger,
pretty much any animal, I dont think that it solves the problem just to
get rid of them.
Patrols are a waste of money, nets no good. I think that there are just way more crew in the ocean. Keep it hush , hush. Get rid of the masses, Numbers will fall.
Another day, another death, and a seabreeze thread.
Have to say i've been swayed to the idea of a cull. Having previously been very much against it. Reading perthnow article, looks like public opinion is turning this way as well, and the government is going to allow commercial fishing to increase for great whites.
pitchforks and torches at the ready.
I dislike the way the news report classifies it as a 'rogue' shark. It's just doing what it does. Are all the other sharks being gentlemen and this one's in a leather jacket with a fag behind it's ear?
It's reptilian brain primal stuff. The thought of being attacked by a shark petrifies me. Any one who says differently is lying.
But there are some upsides. Your friends and relatives get to trot out the 'died doing what he loved' cliche' at your funeral.
It's a way cooler way to go than lung cancer from smoking ciggies.
We make the choice when we go into it's environment.
Statistically, we are millions of times more likely to die in the cars we drive everyday.
Still, doesn't help much when dragging to a board 20 meters upwind in black water.
condolances to the family . makes you wonder, pointers are a long lived fish and travel widely . locally we have 4(i think) shark dive licensed charters who travel south of port lincoln to the neptunes and chum and deliberately stir sharks for a profit on a daily basis.
the companies make heaps of cash but do the fish once they leave , associate boats and familiarity with divers in the water with lunch?
one fatal attack on an experienced ab diver last year by reportedly 2 pointers while he was wearing shark sheild. october is always sus ,does make you think.
About the Cottesloe fatal encounter:
"Mr Martin, from Mosman Park in Perth's west, was CEO of the James Point consortium, a building company planning a private port near Kwinana in Perth's south."
First & foremost condolences to family & friends of victim its tragic.
Shark species has not been confirmed which was the case with the Dunsborough attack.
Leave it to the incompetent media to beat up a story.
GW's aren't the only sharks that bite.
Clearly it wasn't the same shark that took the swimmer at Cott or the snorkeller at Warnbro sound. In both those attacks there have been no remains found which would suggest in those cases it was a big shark.
We are in the middle of whale migration season as i have said the previous 2 years i have been told some pro abalone divers will not go in the water at this time of year due to increased shark activity.
Stay safe boys & girls
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............................................................................................ theyre looking to destroy the shark and doing a cull ....2 late they missed the boat
some reading for RSCAIFE, a paper published in SCIENCE in July this year talking about ecological consequences of the removal of apex predators.
here's a press release about this paper:
news.ucsc.edu/2011/07/apex-consumers.html
here's the link to the paper:
www.sciencemag.org/content/333/6040/301.abstract?sid=da4fa756-9c82-4929-843b-3f063829b22c
