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Created by Gone to dark side > 9 months ago, 8 Jun 2010
Gone to dark side
NSW, 394 posts
8 Jun 2010 2:46PM
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This is what I have come up with on one of my swims in. Kite goes down in the surf you are not able to get back up you have time before you get into the killing zone .Instead of releasing your safety and having to swim in why not releases your harness and let the kite pull it in and even hold onto the back handle till you think you will do damage to your kite then let go.
I have found trying to swim with harness on very hard + weight + the harness acts as a sea anchor as you try to swim in. And if it’s a good idea why not starts trying to make harness that can releases quicker.
Hope this help some one one day.

8 Jun 2010 5:02PM
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Gone to dark side said...

This is what I have come up with on one of my swims in. Kite goes down in the surf you are not able to get back up you have time before you get into the killing zone .Instead of releasing your safety and having to swim in why not releases your harness and let the kite pull it in and even hold onto the back handle till you think you will do damage to your kite then let go.
I have found trying to swim with harness on very hard + weight + the harness acts as a sea anchor as you try to swim in. And if it’s a good idea why not starts trying to make harness that can releases quicker.
Hope this help some one one day.


I guess that always an option, but have you checked how buoyant your harness is?
The ones I've used are very buoyant, this includes Dakine Fusion and tabu, Pat Love and now Mystic warriorII, don't think I would want to ditch my waist harness, I can swim quite well with it on.
Any ideas on why the kite would not relaunch? Do you think it is he kite model? Or something else?
A harness release is probably not necessary though, the leash has the function of ditching the kite, the harness would likely float/blow in if you did have to take it off?

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
8 Jun 2010 6:20PM
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Very true I kite with a leggy so when the surf hits your kite you still have your board to get in on. Have you ever tried paddling and duck diving when your kite has been hit by the first wave of a set with a harness on. Some brands use a quick release on the spreader bar like pro limit and mystic so maybe have a look at them.

Gorgo
VIC, 5127 posts
8 Jun 2010 9:14PM
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It all sounds a bit complicated. I've never had any problems swimming in and I've done a few 500m+ swims doing full power freestyle.

I would be more concerned about the risk of my harness accidentally undone. That would be a nightmare.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
8 Jun 2010 9:39PM
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Remember lesson number 1,

Dont go out further than you can swim in.



But we all break that rule.


Murphys law- if somethings going to break,
It will happen at the time you are furtherest away from shore.

F@ck you Murphy,,,,,who ever you are?

Who is he anyway And why does he have to be such an a-hole[}:)]

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
8 Jun 2010 10:15PM
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Unhooking a harness and getting a decent hold of the back handle while battling time, waves, and likely a board in the mix sounds a bit tricky.

If in doubt:

K eep
I t
S imple
S tupid <<-- that's me!

wishy
WA, 1501 posts
8 Jun 2010 9:12PM
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One of my friends kites with a large bbq chicken attached to a game hook in a backpack. If his kite goes down and he can't relaunch it he attaches the hook to his safety leash before pulling the final release. 9 times out of ten when the kite arrives to the beach there is a delicious marlin or wahoo with it which helps weigh the kite down to keep beach users safe.

jkiter
QLD, 139 posts
9 Jun 2010 1:01AM
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reminds me of a session in gusty 20-30kn winds where my harness tore apart, I only had one hand on the bar when it failed so consequently my harness came strait off still hooked to the kite. being a c kite with no depower, the harness dragged in the water keeping the lines tight and the hole lot stayed powered and sailed off into the distance..... lucky it hit land about 1 km away.

craggers
WA, 475 posts
9 Jun 2010 3:27PM
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lotofwind said...



...Murphys law- if somethings going to break,
It will happen at the time you are furtherest away from shore.

F@ck you Murphy,,,,,who ever you are?

Who is he anyway And why does he have to be such an a-hole[}:)]



This is like the lost item that you find "IN THE LAST PLACE I LOOKED!!!!"

well... lotofwind. heres my theory....

it breaks when you are 'furthest from shore' because you would be a damn d*ckhead, or genius, if you could keep kiting furhter out once your gear had broke!!!!

...or is it like old mate on his windsurfer... he broke the boom on the opposite tack (so the handle he wasnt using going out) and sailed a further kilometre out to sea, wondering what he was gonna do, before he ditched.

(yes i know there is a flaw in my logic... but... im bored)

Baita
41 posts
9 Jun 2010 7:29PM
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just my opinion. but wouldnt it be harder to swim holding onto a harness then if it was around you.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
10 Jun 2010 4:37PM
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Gone to dark side said...
Kite goes down in the surf you are not able to get back up you have time before you get into the killing zone .


Downing a kite in big surf is ok ...
if the upping happens straightaway.
Immediately.
If it just refuses to fly before the approach of the next oncoming sneaker set,
there is only one smart option ...
Cut ties with the kite and let it go free.
You see,
if you have 4-line traction on your kite,
and you get pounded by breaking waves ...
you end up swimming in with an exploded kite.
If you decide to flag to 1-line after downing your kite in big surf,
and you get pounded by breaking waves ...
you end up swimming in with an out-of-shape kite and a birdsnest of kiteline.
The smart thing to do is just release the kite.
When you do, it twists and tumbles in the soup and finally gets beached and then gets stuck to the wet, warm sand on Paradise Is.

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
12 Jun 2010 1:19PM
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waveslave said...

Gone to dark side said...
Kite goes down in the surf you are not able to get back up you have time before you get into the killing zone .


Downing a kite in big surf is ok ...
if the upping happens straightaway.
Immediately.
If it just refuses to fly before the approach of the next oncoming sneaker set,
there is only one smart option ...
Cut ties with the kite and let it go free.
You see,
if you have 4-line traction on your kite,
and you get pounded by breaking waves ...
you end up swimming in with an exploded kite.
If you decide to flag to 1-line after downing your kite in big surf,
and you get pounded by breaking waves ...
you end up swimming in with an out-of-shape kite and a birdsnest of kiteline.
The smart thing to do is just release the kite.
When you do, it twists and tumbles in the soup and finally gets beached and then gets stuck to the wet, warm sand on Paradise Is.



So if you ditch your harness with your kite it should also end up on paradise Island and you are free to paddle in without your harness getting in the way
But what happens if your on a shallow reef and your harness snags then you not only lose your bar and lines but your harness too



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