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POll - Are you a member of AKSA

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Created by sammyd > 9 months ago, 23 Apr 2010
sammyd
QLD, 101 posts
23 Apr 2010 10:55PM
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Just wanna see how many of us are financial members of AKSA
just reply YES or NO

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
23 Apr 2010 11:37PM
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Not gonna work dude

ApatheticEnd
WA, 995 posts
24 Apr 2010 12:54AM
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YES

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:09AM
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Im pretty sure waveslave is

Rhys McClintock
NSW, 995 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:10AM
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Yes

old4dy
NSW, 147 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:31AM
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NO

Craig66
NSW, 2466 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:48AM
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YES or NO

rusty7
QLD, 504 posts
24 Apr 2010 9:46AM
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yes

Baz
NSW, 205 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:01AM
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Yes, but what is your agenda?

lex123
NSW, 511 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:58AM
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Yes

diginoz
WA, 317 posts
24 Apr 2010 9:49AM
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YES. BUT WE CARNT GET ANY WIND EITHER

junglist
VIC, 701 posts
24 Apr 2010 1:03PM
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NO.

They do not do personal accident cover like BKSA, so until they do they don't get my $$$

This is a sh1t house situation and, yet again, Aussies are being sold short but told we have the best.

Its Bullsh1t.

Cheers

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
24 Apr 2010 11:31AM
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Yes is there an alternative!!?

jkiter
QLD, 139 posts
24 Apr 2010 5:57PM
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f@#k NO

loverboy
WA, 614 posts
24 Apr 2010 4:47PM
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yes

RedKite
VIC, 66 posts
24 Apr 2010 8:52PM
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Yes.

And still waiting for the latest accounts to be posted on their web site,
to see where the $ are spend.

old4dy
NSW, 147 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:24PM
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junglist said...

NO.

They do not do personal accident cover like BKSA, so until they do they don't get my $$$

This is a sh1t house situation and, yet again, Aussies are being sold short but told we have the best.

Its Bullsh1t.

Cheers


yes there is an alternative thing to do insurance wise is to join the Geelong Kite Club, they will cover land based screw ups, and race cover also if that way inclined
go here for info


http://www.geelongkiteclub.org.au/

paulio
QLD, 890 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:34PM
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YES I am!

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:36PM
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AKSA ? What's that ? What do they do ? Am I missing something here ?

Windmill
VIC, 33 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:54PM
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YES. Public liability insurance is a good thing! Get sued with out it and you'll never have a new kite again let alone the essentials.

jimmy87
SA, 112 posts
24 Apr 2010 10:49PM
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Yes

kkiter
NSW, 452 posts
25 Apr 2010 5:40AM
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Windmill, the insurance is a crock. They don't pay up. At least NSWKBA don't.

junglist
VIC, 701 posts
25 Apr 2010 10:30AM
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Windmill said...

YES. Public liability insurance is a good thing! Get sued with out it and you'll never have a new kite again let alone the essentials.


I agree PL insurance IS a good idea however it is NOT personal injury insurance. My point being that other National associations (BKSA for instance) provide for personal injury insurance, AKSA do not.

Personally I would not mind paying $100 / $200+ per year for AKSA membership if they provide personal injury insurance. AKSA could even implement a sliding scale of membership fee based upon the individuals level of cover required. BKSA do this, it CANT be that hard and there is A PROFIT to be made!

To claim that kiters are fully insured without personal injury insurance in the context of other National associations is a misrepresentation of the facts. AKSA need to use the clout of membership numbers to convince the risk adverse insurance companies of the benefits of full cover to members.

Until then......

I wonder how many more members would join up if personal injury insurance was offered as part of the package? Just a thought!

ApatheticEnd
WA, 995 posts
25 Apr 2010 9:15AM
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kkiter said...

Windmill, the insurance is a crock. They don't pay up. At least NSWKBA don't.


Care to elaborate?

kkiter
NSW, 452 posts
25 Apr 2010 1:14PM
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Still waiting to be paid for a claim on an incident that happened last November. I'm out of pocket some $2000, with no resolution in the foreseeable future. However, this morning I have received an email from NSWKBA, so stay tuned.

jackgearo
NSW, 331 posts
25 Apr 2010 1:21PM
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yes... i think it is more important to be insured for damage YOU cause other people.... why should aksa pay for an injury you caused to yourself?

stabber
NSW, 1114 posts
25 Apr 2010 4:44PM
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Windmill said...

YES. Public liability insurance is a good thing! Get sued with out it and you'll never have a new kite again let alone the essentials.


Sue me for ANYTHING , and you'll never see a red cent!.....

Not that I'm broke...far from it....

Just some very good asset protection planning can alleviate any of your stress on that side of things..

Want to know more?

Just like my tax tips and my hedge fund tips, you'll never get the chance to read about them, because I'll get booted!

Caesar
QLD, 109 posts
25 Apr 2010 5:10PM
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What is AKSA? Margarine or butter?

junglist
VIC, 701 posts
25 Apr 2010 5:40PM
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jackgearo said...

yes... i think it is more important to be insured for damage YOU cause other people.... why should aksa pay for an injury you caused to yourself?


AKSA don't pay out a cent. They actually make money on a % per premium and an increase in membership.

OK I will explain the principals of insurance s l o w l y

You pay a premium membership so that AKSA arranges 'group' insurance with a major insurance company. If you get injured then the insurance company pays out for your medical treatment. Under this deal the pay out is usually limited to a dollar amount per type of injury.

Check out the BKSA insurance page: http://www.britishkitesurfingassociation.co.uk/bksa-membership/insurance-policy.html

It seems the British can get cover but Australians can't.

Makes you feel proud to be a true blue mug does it?

djdojo
VIC, 1616 posts
25 Apr 2010 5:55PM
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No.

I'm pretty ambivalent about insurance in general, and from what I've seen and heard so far AKSA/KBV have a ways to go in providing value for money.

I certainly try to minimise risk by checking my gear regularly, following simple and safe launching/landing routines, keeping out of the way of kooks and not going out if the gusts are over 35 knots.

If cover becomes more comprehensive and if I hear good stories of satisfied claimants I'll consider joining.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
25 Apr 2010 5:55PM
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I was under the impression that by paying an state association fee you received a public liability policy from the national association.

Last I checked, a public liabilty policy covers personal and property damage as a result of me smashing them with a kite. Pretty sure that my injuries aren't covered nor are the injuries to another kiter that I smash.

The IKO policy is the same. Just a PL policy underwritten by some multinational insurer.



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