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What leash for unhooking??? they all seem to break

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Created by Toby B > 9 months ago, 23 Jan 2010
Toby B
WA, 41 posts
23 Jan 2010 3:17PM
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Hey there guys, been getting into unhooking past few months and ive already broken an ozone leash and now ive just broken the mystic leash supposedly made for unhooking and handlepasses..

The bungy part isnt braking its the clips that hook onto the chicken loop or wherever you choose to connect to. They just stretch open then the latch obviously doesnt close back up.

Anyone have a good solution to this.. Keep the mystic leash perhaps and buy some new attachments for it
Maybe a double action Karabiner. twist and pull gate??

What do you guys recommend and or use??

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
23 Jan 2010 7:03PM
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Ask waveslave

spot1
WA, 1588 posts
23 Jan 2010 8:05PM
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try a north just pu one up $60 it looks the goods

secondplace
WA, 25 posts
24 Jan 2010 12:06AM
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yeah, i reckon try use a rock climbing carabiner.. made much stronger, shouldn't stretch at all..

dachopper
WA, 1802 posts
24 Jan 2010 5:03AM
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The north one is ok - IF you push the rubber sleeve up against the opener for the scissor clip. This just helps the clip not undo itself however eventually you will wear the rubber sleeve and the scissor clip too


The best handle pass leash I ever had was one from Naish

It had a d-shackle with 1 sprung loaded side ( to clip it on ) at the kite end instead of a crappy scissor clip and it has Never failed... However like all leashed after about 2 years and a thousand handlepass crashes - eventually the rubber / elastic will go leaving you with an awseom leash without any stretch to aid absorbing shock.

They were around $90 but I am pretty sure they are around $40 now, I don't know if that means the build quality has changed

Adrenalin Rush
QLD, 876 posts
24 Jan 2010 9:08PM
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I personally switched to the NSI safety because of the same reason. Ive had mine for nearly 2 years now and it is still the goods. Had to change the clip a few times.

We have one left in stock if you want one. $40 but youll need to get some of your own carabiner from the hard ware shop.

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
24 Jan 2010 10:41PM
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Flexi foil make a good leash that comes with the hadlow pro kites they seem to be the tougthest built that i have seen and have a sock thing over the clip so when you hook it on and slide the sock over you wont be able to accidently un hook it.

I allso like the ss handle pass system as it comes with a leash that has no qr and i havent had any problems with mine in the last 12month.

If the only part you are having problems with is the clips you can spend a couple of seconds and tape it up at the start of the sesion.

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
25 Jan 2010 12:46AM
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My idea for my next leash is.

Windsurfing uphaul with a larkshead around a metal ring on one end (the metal ring runs on the rope at the back of the harness) the at the bar end a small loop so I can make a larkshead onto a pigtail like attachment on the chicken loop, that way no clunky metal around your hands. QR's are for noobs.

dachopper
WA, 1802 posts
25 Jan 2010 3:36PM
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:)

A good friend of mine got the ****s with his safety leash coming undone as yet another scissor shackle came undone - and decided to swap the the safety leash around ( as the kite end was stuffed ) tie the stuffed end to his harness and have a quick release at the chickenloop end instead of one at his end.

As he was putting his wakeboarding boots back on after a crash at woodies in about knee deep water - his bow kite which was just sitting on the water decided to relaunch. As it did for some reason it started turning to one side ( was a bow with pulleys near the bar ) and the loops began. His harness got yanked nearly up to his chest and the kite started death spiraling - doing up the bar in an "end for end" position towing him at about 15 kts in 30kts of wind out to see. He could not reach the bar or quick release because his harness was yanked right up under his armpits and the kite was doing insanely powerful loops. The quick release was at the bar end and not at his harness end. while struggling to breathe his board cought the water and immediately towed him under and started to pin him down - then he angled the board up and resurfaced 10 meters later gasping for breath surfing backwards at 15 kts and he could do nothing.. we sent a fishing boat after him and luckily it was fast enough but it eventually ran over his lines about a km off shore as he was giving up hope ... contorting his body to stop his board towing him under for minutes while his chest was getting crushed by the loops making it labouring to breathe ... closest he said he has come to drowning.

moral of the story

Only dickheads, or crap riders who don't know any better will tell you not to worry about a quick release on your safety leash

ruffryder61
QLD, 470 posts
25 Jan 2010 5:39PM
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new north and pro limit are nice. also the mystic handle pass leash is great.

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
25 Jan 2010 7:08PM
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dachopper said...

moral of the story

Only dickheads, or crap riders who don't know any better will tell you not to worry about a quick release on your safety leash



amen

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
25 Jan 2010 7:16PM
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The slingshot leash doesnt have a QR on the leash but on the spreader bar in a spot where you allways know where it is a lot of the time with a handle pass settup the kite will pull you backwards if it loops uncontrolably. works well

Jr Walks
WA, 284 posts
25 Jan 2010 9:42PM
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GalahOnTheBay said...

dachopper said...

moral of the story

Only dickheads, or crap riders who don't know any better will tell you not to worry about a quick release on your safety leash



amen

Waveslave????

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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25 Jan 2010 10:26PM
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This is a good reason for liking the Pat Love TFMK waist harness. It has a quick release pin on either side of the harness which disconnects the handle pass bridle.

I figure if your behind a death looping kite being towed backwards at a rate of knots, even if you have a QR on the leash itself, you have a slim chance of actually grabbing it.

Just an observation.

KH

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
25 Jan 2010 11:22PM
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Spacemonkey! said...
QR's are for noobs.


lol. ^^^

If you unhook and do all those cool handle-pass moves...
I guess you really do need a non-breakable death-leash, hey ?
That's because 9 times out of 10, the handle-passers blow the move and crash the kite.
The crash-zone in the showpony ring is usually awash with downed kites.
So a death-leash for them is a necessary evil.
But if you never unhook,
if you never detach from your chicken-loop,
intentionally or unintentionally...
then you really don't need to worry about death-leashes, do you ?



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