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Created by webby7 > 9 months ago, 24 Sep 2009
webby7
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:01AM
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Hey everyone, i'm chasing advice on how to do what my mate calls a jumping transition where you pull a jump then land travelling in the opposite direction you started in. I seem to be stalling once i land and end up having to loop the kite and scoot down wind or just landing and sinking.
Thanks in advance
webby

BrisKites
QLD, 1293 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:06AM
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Travel into your jump with a little less speed. Whatever board speed you have will need to be washed off by having the kite behind you so if your too fast you will pull the kite out of the window.

Start with a small jump and control the radius of your kite so your forward movemant has stopped by the zenith of your jump.

Then dive your kite to give enough momentum in the opposite direction. Much better to loop it though as the kite is almost out of the power at this stage.

Good luck.

Jas

bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:23AM
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one of the most critical points about this move is your body position. once you are in the air turn your head to the direction u want to land and alow your body to open up to that direction. turn your kite a little bit further than normal in the direction you want to land, and ride away. start with smallish jumps

webby7
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:26AM
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thanks mate,
when would you loop the kite, towards the end of the jump as i'm landing or mid flight? Once i've mastered this to do the more agressive and high transition jumps do you need to start being able to jump at a lot faster speed. thanks again

bobjaan
WA, 314 posts
24 Sep 2009 8:50AM
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Hey Mate

I find the trick is the timing in when you send the kite again for the redirection. So go into the jump as if it was a normal jump, but as said above try and wash off the speed as your take off.

Then when your kite is on the other side of the window, bring it back as if you where going to land in the direction you where originally travelling, but stop the kit dead at twelve, float down and as you about 4 foot off the water send the kite in opposite direction.

Remember your body position needs to face in the new direction of travel.

I was thinking of starting some video tutorials and giving Noobs on the forum a video posted on which ever trick they wanted to see, request welcome.

Was just gonna film it myself and then post the body action and then the kite movement.

Would anyone be interested in that or would I be wasting my time?

webby7
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 11:21AM
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bobjaan said...

Hey Mate



Remember your body position needs to face in the new direction of travel.

I was thinking of starting some video tutorials and giving Noobs on the forum a video posted on which ever trick they wanted to see, request welcome.

Was just gonna film it myself and then post the body action and then the kite movement.

Would anyone be interested in that or would I be wasting my time?


i'd definately watch them mate.

I;m heading out this weekend so i'll try and remember everyones advice and give it a crack
cheers
cheers

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1913 posts
24 Sep 2009 9:56AM
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Adding to the above

Just before you jump - carve your board quick & hard directly upwind, this will wash off some speed & load up the kite for a good jump

you wont need to loop the kite if you are aggressive enough in diving the kite.

Fun Options Full commitment both ways

BoB - good idea go for it, if youd like some help send me a pm

djdojo
VIC, 1616 posts
24 Sep 2009 12:36PM
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bobjaan said...


I was thinking of starting some video tutorials and giving Noobs on the forum a video posted on which ever trick they wanted to see, request welcome.

Was just gonna film it myself and then post the body action and then the kite movement.

Would anyone be interested in that or would I be wasting my time?


I'm always up for video help in refining existing skills and working on new ones. Might be worth seeking some sponsorship and doing some product placement to make it worth your while.

P.S. I know they're not that difficult, but I would have classified jumping transitions as beginner/intermediate rather than noob?

bobjaan
WA, 314 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:48AM
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Cool will have a crack over the next few days, weather depending. Will start with some basic tricks and then work to the passes.

Requests welcome and help even more welcome.
Might need some help with Filming and happy for other people to get in on the trick action.



moon waxing
WA, 313 posts
24 Sep 2009 11:43AM
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As mentioned killing your speed in the original direction by carving to windward just before you jump and trying to push yourself in new direction as you release from the water.

Any momentum in the original direction absorbs the pull from kite when diving in the new direction causing you to just sink.

Looping the kite will help pull you out but if your not ready for the pull or time it wrong could get messy.

Alfred007
VIC, 37 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:30PM
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Pretty decent website, in case you don't know it: www.kite-skills.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=54

KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:48PM
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I'll just add one little bit the to above.

When you redirect the kite to the new direction try making an "S" with the kite so to speak. This will give a strong pull in the new direction and you'll power away. Works for any other transition as well.

webby7
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:50PM
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thanks for all the advice i'll check that site out to alfreddo

mjaygray
WA, 125 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:15PM
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why not just try to ask that mate of yours buddy

webby7
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 4:20PM
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mjaygray said...


why not just try to ask that mate of yours buddy


haha cause we're both trying to learn it and both getting completely different and equally funny landings that look nothing like they should

Gorgo
VIC, 5127 posts
24 Sep 2009 5:53PM
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The easiest and funnest air transition is the downloop air gybe. Simply do the jump of your choice then pull fairly hard on your front hand to send the kite around. This eliminates all the problems of landing underpowered.

When first starting do the jump, keep the kite high then send it down and around when you land. As you get the feel of it send it harder and earlier and from higher and you will end up doing a nice powered orbit and land fulling planing in the opposite direction.

With a little practice it's easier to do the downloop than a normal jump because it's essentially overcooking the jump then keeping the kite going in the same direction. It makes a trick out of a mistake.

For the straight up pop transition you can also try landing to toeside. It tends to put you in a better body position so you're ready to plane away.

If all else fails, just keep doing what you're doing and loop the kite faster so you can ride away planing.

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
25 Sep 2009 8:54AM
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www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=kitefilm&e=com

right at the bottom of the page is a downloadable WMV. hope this helps

webby7
QLD, 145 posts
25 Sep 2009 12:02PM
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dave...... said...

www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=kitefilm&e=com

right at the bottom of the page is a downloadable WMV. hope this helps


that's an awesome sight mate thanks

Clintos
QLD, 88 posts
25 Sep 2009 9:44PM
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I can show you how mate, but it looks a lot better if you throw a backroll in while doing it..

Dj Atak
WA, 75 posts
26 Sep 2009 12:07AM
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gday webby! go to youtube and type in transition with ruben.

kitebored
NSW, 593 posts
26 Sep 2009 7:11PM
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Alfred007 said...

Pretty decent website, in case you don't know it: www.kite-skills.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=54


Cheers!

kitepete
QLD, 10 posts
26 Sep 2009 9:43PM
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You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting

kiting kid
VIC, 219 posts
26 Sep 2009 9:49PM
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kitepete said...

You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting


don't leave the kiteloop to late

strez
QLD, 58 posts
27 Sep 2009 10:39AM
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kiting kid said...

kitepete said...

You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting


don't leave the kiteloop to late


if you do a down loop start it as you start coming down . you want to complete the loop and have it lifting up again and in the oposite direction befor you hit the water . time it right and it`s the softest landing there is

kiting kid
VIC, 219 posts
27 Sep 2009 11:51AM
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strez said...

kiting kid said...

kitepete said...

You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting


don't leave the kiteloop to late


if you do a down loop start it as you start coming down . you want to complete the loop and have it lifting up again and in the oposite direction befor you hit the water . time it right and it`s the softest landing there is




very true

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
27 Sep 2009 4:33PM
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A smooth aerial transition is an old school move. You'll need to ride properly powered up to do it right.
Don't be a skirt and use a bit bigger kite to loft around it.

Small kites make it real hard unless you have a bit of a wave and have the move totally nailed.
Small kites wont do a good job redirect your inertia and the move will look like a poor effort, to land to kite loop recovery.



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