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A boat to watch for on the East Coast

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Created by LooseChange > 9 months ago, 24 Jul 2013
LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
25 Jul 2013 12:31AM
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Watch out for her as she cruises up the coast.

www.ulladullatimes.com.au/story/1656833/notorious-ship-sails-in/?cs=1480

Not everyone needs nor wants a plastic fantastic.

brizzydave
406 posts
25 Jul 2013 1:31PM
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Holy cr*p!

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
25 Jul 2013 5:18PM
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I went on board today as she is moored in Ulladulla at the moment till the weekend, then she is up to Wollongong Harbour and then Sydney. They at the moment are only going up the coast as far as Iluka/Yamba in Northern NSW.

The entire boat is hand built from hand adzed Macrocarpa, the hull is FOUR inches thick. The modern stuff is dacron sails, modern anti fouling paint on the bottom plus a turbo charged six cylinder diesel. She even has an open fire place below decks for when things get chilly.

Notice the size of the timbers in comparison to the lady coming down the steps in pic.1

Below decks is surprisingly roomy given the massive size of everything, the forward mast (just partially visible in pic.2 is nearly fourteen inches thick at the sole level.

pic.3 Open fireplace with port and starboard forepeak bunk spaces just behind, the knee visible in the top left corner is nearly six inches thick.



brizzydave
406 posts
25 Jul 2013 3:34PM
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Can you get them to put up a few paintings....or lay out a doily or something?

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
25 Jul 2013 6:27PM
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brizzydave said..

Can you get them to put up a few paintings....or lay out a doily or something?


No need, the entire boat is already a work of art, why would you want to cover it up.

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
25 Jul 2013 7:30PM
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au.images.search.yahoo.com/images;_ylt=A0oGkmDU6PBRiSQAT7BAvolQ?p=Notorious+sailing&fr=ipad&fr2=piv-web

brizzydave
406 posts
25 Jul 2013 7:17PM
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He he ...no sheet.....but it looks all hard and cold....like I need slippers and a pillow to sit on.

Do they have a giant medical kit full of needles for removing daily splinters?

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
25 Jul 2013 9:37PM
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Most of those pics show her with three masts, she now only has two, as the aft mast didn't contribute much to sailing performance. In order to address balance issues a bowsprit was fitted to which a more traditional jib is to be fitted.
Follow her progress here www.facebook.com/notorioustheship

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
25 Jul 2013 9:40PM
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brizzydave said..

He he ...no sheet.....but it looks all hard and cold....like I need slippers and a pillow to sit on.

Do they have a giant medical kit full of needles for removing daily splinters?


No splinters at all, in fact it has a nice tactile feel about it. Anyway, the bedding all looked nice and soft.

brizzydave
406 posts
25 Jul 2013 8:38PM
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It's a beautiful ship, that's for sure. The thing I like...iis that they have followed a dream and persued it to the end.

All hobbies or loves or dreams etc are an outward expression of ones self and inner feelings. The guy that built this obviously has a love of the ocean, history, wood as a building medium, those type of craft, and a challenge.

Amazing.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
26 Jul 2013 12:44AM
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Tradition is one thing but I will take a modern sloop any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Thirty four feet is enough.

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
26 Jul 2013 8:14AM
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I noticed the interior had an adze finish but the ships planking has a perfect machine finish!

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
26 Jul 2013 8:19AM
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cisco said..

Tradition is one thing but I will take a modern sloop any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Thirty four feet is enough.


30 feet is enough, it's how you use it!

Chatting to the mooring contractor a couple of days ago. he is about to put a mooring down for a 46 foot ex hobart racer. Blokes first boat, wanted to know if I would help him bring it down and give him some pointers.

Fiesta
QLD, 122 posts
26 Jul 2013 11:28AM
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Whilst I have the utmost respect for the builder and the work that goes into a boat like this, there are distinct advantages that go with design evolution that is not rule constrained. Looks like it could roll - just a touch, when downhill with any real swell.... Massive amount of windage in that freeboard which must also make life exciting in anything 20knts plus.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
26 Jul 2013 11:59AM
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Fiesta said..

Whilst I have the utmost respect for the builder and the work that goes into a boat like this, there are distinct advantages that go with design evolution that is not rule constrained. Looks like it could roll - just a touch, when downhill with any real swell.... Massive amount of windage in that freeboard which must also make life exciting in anything 20knts plus.



Interesting that you should mention the roll factor, I spoke with the crew about that and they assure me that it isn't as bad as what you may first think when looking at the hull.

The builder is a carpenter/furniture maker so has quite a good grasp of how to build things without them falling apart. Sail area they tell me is about 1000 square feet, which I must admit had me not quite believing that number, I would have thought more. I guess the fact that she has been from Paynesville to Geelong and then to Hobart and now up the coast means it must work. What we don't know is how many of those miles were done under mechanical genoa.

DrRog
NSW, 608 posts
26 Jul 2013 12:31PM
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Cool. We should get to see her when she reaches Sydney. Imagine the havoc she'd cause amidst the weekend races.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
26 Jul 2013 11:45PM
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Ramona said..

cisco said..

Tradition is one thing but I will take a modern sloop any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Thirty four feet is enough.


30 feet is enough, it's how you use it!


I tend to agree. Any one of these three yachts would shake my booty.

http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=14696958&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=15&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15154619&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=16&eapi=2

www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=15265303&Silo=Stock&Vertical=Boat&Ridx=17&eapi=2

My very first yacht was a Spencer Javelin. An extremely exciting yacht to sail. Bought it for $200 with a trailer in New Plymouth, N.Z.

My second yacht was a Spencer Adrian (Mk 2 or 3 with mast head rig, not fractional, and extra lead on the keel) 25 feet of cruising joy for 4 people on Auckland Harbour and the Hauraki Gulf.

So the Spencer 30 (which I think was his only fibreglass production design) is very pretty and bears some similarity in hull form to the S&S 34 and has proper berths for 6 people.

My third yacht was a Peterson 42 (alloy IOR 2 tonner named ENVY II) that I sailed from Cairns to Bundaberg, refitted, sailed back to Cairns, chartered for 3 years (financial disaster), sailed to Mooloolaba, chartered for 4 months (financial disaster), sailed back to Bundaberg and sold it (financial win). It was a magnificent yacht to sail and though I lost a small fortune owning it, I still consider it money well spent.

So the Santana 30 (Peterson 30) is a very handsome yacht and would deliver great sailing performance with a roomy cabin for guests. I like it!!! It is called "Heaven Can Wait" and I agree with that sentiment.

My fourth yacht was a Windrush Wildfire which in my opinion are the best trailer sailer ever produced in Australia. A brilliant piece of kit!!

My fifth yacht IS a Van De Stadt 34 which has an excellent cabin and I am told they sail very well. I have had her for 6 years and not yet had her in the water. Being built of steel she now has rust problems among other things and I now have to make an assessment as to whether she is worth repairing or stripping and scrapping.

I am sorely tempted to do that and buy the Peterson 30 for the hell of it.

Any body who is handy with tools interested in buying a Van De Stadt 34 REALLY cheap???

sleek1
VIC, 672 posts
28 Jul 2013 6:13PM
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Had a good look at notorious when she was in Paynesville.truly worth checking out she's a work of art.was there on a cold winter day with fire roaring below decks I didn't want to leave.amazing.



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