This vessel has been advertised on Gumtree and is now on eBay as well. Fair bit of work and an ideal candidate for a junk rig!http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Classic-cruising-yacht-44ft-for-restoration/122560029318?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Such and amazing deal even with a bit if work to do. She could be made sooo beautiful again
You know maritime in Sydney are auditing every single boat atm so theres going to be alot if boats that need to be either fixed ir discarded.
Who got the letter?
Very sad about Arriba - used to be moored next to me and was in beautiful condition, but slowly allowed to deteriorate. Lots of information from the original owners here: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~tslovacek/
Second owner started a major program of work in conjunction with the boatshed but lost interest/ran out of money. Original timber mast was completely rotten when removed so will require a complete new rig. Interior looks to be in usable/salvageable condition, hull needs a lot of work around the deck joint. New transom as a minimum, probably most of a new deck too. Engine quality unknown, but probably due for replacement.
Current owners have done the boat a huge favor by allowing it to remain well ventilated.
Whoever buys it will need deep pockets......
Select to expand quoteSectorsteve said..
You know maritime in Sydney are auditing every single boat atm so theres going to be alot if boats that need to be either fixed ir discarded.
Who got the letter?
What are they doing, going around the moorings and checking the boats that are not seaworthy and in good condition?
Not a bad thing, as long as they give owners who have older boats they are seriously going to fix up a chance to do so.
Sooo many really cheap boats about to hit the market. Atleast we might end up with a reasonable 2nd hand parts selection
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..Sectorsteve said..
You know maritime in Sydney are auditing every single boat atm so theres going to be alot if boats that need to be either fixed ir discarded.
Who got the letter?
What are they doing, going around the moorings and checking the boats that are not seaworthy and in good condition?
Not a bad thing, as long as they give owners who have older boats they are seriously going to fix up a chance to do so.
They are mainly looking at boats that are having major maintenance done. In the case of Arriba they would frown upon the tarp cover. Not sure whether they are concerned about sawdust, paint scrapings etc going into the water or just the appearance. Probably pressure from local residents complaining their view is being spoilt by those so called yachtsmen. One of the local blokes here was told by the local MSB to remove his boat from the water for 6 months to repaint it. It was concrete and I told him it would look perfect after a quick stay on the slips for a coat of paint. Now you could easily mistake the boat for 'glass. The problem was his mooring was right in front of pensioners homes on the waterfront.
At one time we had some old dear complaining to the council and wanting all the moorings removed!
Select to expand quotewoko said..
Sooo many really cheap boats about to hit the market. Atleast we might end up with a reasonable 2nd hand parts selection
Only problem with that is finding a place to dispose of what is left. Plenty of derelicts around the harbour - some locations more than others - with a few $$$ worth of usable parts, and the rest junk. Find somewhere with an accommodating slipway and room for a skip and we can get into the disposal/2nd hand parts business...but it would be for fun and love not real money.
Generally (and sadly) not worth bringing most of the vessels back to life as usable prospects in the current market, so they'll sit there until they sink, or will be impounded by Maritime and eventually trashed.
Select to expand quotesydchris said..woko said..
Sooo many really cheap boats about to hit the market. Atleast we might end up with a reasonable 2nd hand parts selection
Only problem with that is finding a place to dispose of what is left. Plenty of derelicts around the harbour - some locations more than others - with a few $$$ worth of usable parts, and the rest junk. Find somewhere with an accommodating slipway and room for a skip and we can get into the disposal/2nd hand parts business...but it would be for fun and love not real money.
Generally (and sadly) not worth bringing most of the vessels back to life as usable prospects in the current market, so they'll sit there until they sink, or will be impounded by Maritime and eventually trashed.
Steels could be used for scrap, ferro recrush makes a nice road base, wood if it's any good it sells its self or at this time of year you could poke it in the potbelly, that leaves glass, how do you deal with a fibreglass hull when no one wants it any more ? Maybe running it through a crushing plant might give a useable product, in Lismore they crush old beer bottles back to sand for road building. A lot of rooting around for a few old winches and blocks etc. but it's obvious something is going to have to happen !
Select to expand quoteSectorsteve said..
You know maritime in Sydney are auditing every single boat atm so theres going to be alot if boats that need to be either fixed ir discarded.
Who got the letter?
I got mine yesterday. That is just the annual check to ensure the right boat is on the right mooring and the buoy is yellow with the number painted on it.
The local bloke here is checking every week or so!
Why a junk rig? The more I read about them the more performance issues they seem to have, and the more biased and unreliable some of their fans appear to be.
There may be toledo worm given she hasn't been antifouled for four years........
Hull: we have dived on the hull several times, but never hauled Arriba out, so antifoul is definitely due for renewal. In the 4 years we've owned her, she has never taken any water through the hull, and the automatic bilge pump has never been activated. As far as we can tell (from the water), the hull is in pretty good shape.
I don't know whether I should bite or not, but I'll have a nibble....
one of my favourite Junk rig experiences was watching a Junk rigged ketch at anchor, at Rose Bay.
There was a strong Southerly buster due to come through, there was a line of anchored yachts seeking shelter there, I was anchored in 3m with over 70m scope & nothing behind. People were shouting from boat to boat to warn others of the impending front. 2 boats along from me was a junk rigged ketch. 5 minutes before the front hit, the couple on the ketch put up their Junk rigged mizzen. There was much laughter from other yachts & people shouting at the couple on the JR that a big front was coming.
The front came in & wow it was spectacular, as it rolled across Rose Bay & across the water, turning it completely white from the surface to 4 or 5 feet above the water.
There was wind speeds of over 50kts recorded at that Island out from Rose Bay.
All the other yachts, including mine where getting laid over. There was crap flying off the other yachts, biminis getting wrecked, headsails unfurling & the yachts generally getting flung around wildly & people just holding on.
But the JR ketch was upright, pointing perfectly into the wind, taking it in its stride, the couple on board were relaxing & taking photos of the mayhem
Select to expand quoteRamona said..Chris 249 said..Sectorsteve said..
You know maritime in Sydney are auditing every single boat atm so theres going to be alot if boats that need to be either fixed ir discarded.
Who got the letter?
What are they doing, going around the moorings and checking the boats that are not seaworthy and in good condition?
Not a bad thing, as long as they give owners who have older boats they are seriously going to fix up a chance to do so.
They are mainly looking at boats that are having major maintenance done. In the case of Arriba they would frown upon the tarp cover. Not sure whether they are concerned about sawdust, paint scrapings etc going into the water or just the appearance. Probably pressure from local residents complaining their view is being spoilt by those so called yachtsmen. One of the local blokes here was told by the local MSB to remove his boat from the water for 6 months to repaint it. It was concrete and I told him it would look perfect after a quick stay on the slips for a coat of paint. Now you could easily mistake the boat for 'glass. The problem was his mooring was right in front of pensioners homes on the waterfront.
At one time we had some old dear complaining to the council and wanting all the moorings removed!
the letter i got - that everyone got(according to my mooring contractor) stated that they are doing an audit of every vessel in sydney harbour(or maybe just woodford bay?)Theres def some **** heaps in woodford bay. one sank recently. Audit started a few weeks ago and it will take a while. the letter stated they are checking whether moorings have been serviced, checking whether vessels can undertake a voyage and that the vessels are seaworthy. bye bye mooring minders. About time. I cannot see the point of people having moorings with crap heap boats on them cause they plan to , some day get their act together and maybe get a boat. Do-ers and Dreamers. Too many dreamers. They should just do it. (Quote Russell Ord)
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Why a junk rig? The more I read about them the more performance issues they seem to have, and the more biased and unreliable some of their fans appear to be.
In the case of Arriba it would be the easiest and most economic way to proceed. Unstayed mast, round hollow timber and carbon fibre is fairly easy to make. The sail easy to stitch up in my sewing room. Now is the time to instal the reinforced deck section to handle the unstayed mast.
If I was to contemplate long distance cruising it would be with a modern junk rig.
Select to expand quoteGuitz said..
There may be toledo worm given she hasn't been antifouled for four years........
Hull: we have dived on the hull several times, but never hauled Arriba out, so antifoul is definitely due for renewal. In the 4 years we've owned her, she has never taken any water through the hull, and the automatic bilge pump has never been activated. As far as we can tell (from the water), the hull is in pretty good shape.
The hull would be Dynel sheathed and would be a harder finish than a 'glass hull.
Select to expand quoteRamona said..Guitz said..
There may be toledo worm given she hasn't been antifouled for four years........
Hull: we have dived on the hull several times, but never hauled Arriba out, so antifoul is definitely due for renewal. In the 4 years we've owned her, she has never taken any water through the hull, and the automatic bilge pump has never been activated. As far as we can tell (from the water), the hull is in pretty good shape.
The hull would be Dynel sheathed and would be a harder finish than a 'glass hull.
Yes, thanks for confirming that, from what I'd read if Dynel sheathed as part of the build the hull is pretty bulletproof.
The hull is strip-planked and cold-moulded with epoxy and Dynel sheathing.
Select to expand quoteBlueMoon said..
I don't know whether I should bite or not, but I'll have a nibble....
one of my favourite Junk rig experiences was watching a Junk rigged ketch at anchor, at Rose Bay.
There was a strong Southerly buster due to come through, there was a line of anchored yachts seeking shelter there, I was anchored in 3m with over 70m scope & nothing behind. People were shouting from boat to boat to warn others of the impending front. 2 boats along from me was a junk rigged ketch. 5 minutes before the front hit, the couple on the ketch put up their Junk rigged mizzen. There was much laughter from other yachts & people shouting at the couple on the JR that a big front was coming.
The front came in & wow it was spectacular, as it rolled across Rose Bay & across the water, turning it completely white from the surface to 4 or 5 feet above the water.
There was wind speeds of over 50kts recorded at that Island out from Rose Bay.
All the other yachts, including mine where getting laid over. There was crap flying off the other yachts, biminis getting wrecked, headsails unfurling & the yachts generally getting flung around wildly & people just holding on.
But the JR ketch was upright, pointing perfectly into the wind, taking it in its stride, the couple on board were relaxing & taking photos of the mayhem
We can always find an isolated incident to report. When I lived on anchor for a couple of years I never got into that sort of situation so I'll gladly take the improved performance of other rigs. Even the chap that the JRA refer to as the guru of fast junk reckons that his carbon-sparred junk boat is 10% slower than a sloop rigged sistership without spinnaker. I've beaten many a southerly that would have whipped me if I was 10% slower.
I'm glad you like your junk rig and hope you have a good time with it.
Select to expand quotesydchris said..
Arriba now relisted on the well known auction site with bids starting at $1,500.
Has a bid at last!
Select to expand quotesydchris said..
And sold - $1,625 . Hope the new owner can do the work required to restore.
That's a gift!
Select to expand quoteRamona said..sydchris said..
And sold - $1,625 . Hope the new owner can do the work required to restore.
That's a gift!
Wow
Select to expand quoteSectorsteve said..Ramona said..sydchris said..
And sold - $1,625 . Hope the new owner can do the work required to restore.
That's a gift!
Wow
Whether it was sold for $1 or $20K I don't think it makes much difference considering how much work is likely ahead of the new and future owners. I hope we see her restored photos across this site some day.
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Select to expand quoteAndrew68 said..Sectorsteve said..Ramona said..sydchris said..
And sold - $1,625 . Hope the new owner can do the work required to restore.
That's a gift!
Wow
Whether it was sold for $1 or $20K I don't think it makes much difference considering how much work is likely ahead of the new and future owners. I hope we see her restored photos across this site some day.
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true but a bit of love and hard work can get her up to scratch!
