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Created by keensailor > 9 months ago, 10 Apr 2016
keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
10 Apr 2016 10:39AM
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Discovered water in Saildrive this morning. Assuming it's the seal, although I hope the casing is not breached.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7GvyOr-FTQYOUg2VUx4dDZzMUk

MorningBird
NSW, 2711 posts
10 Apr 2016 1:06PM
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Bugger. Don't panic, if you haven't used it much with the water in there and it still has oil to provide some lubrication it might be a simple seal replacement. I don't have much experience with saildrives (none) but I assume they are pretty robust.

keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
10 Apr 2016 4:46PM
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Yes, hope your right about it being a seal.
I hope it does'nt have anything to do with the fact that a diver cleaned the running gear on Friday.


Trek
NSW, 1216 posts
11 Apr 2016 9:37AM
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Check for traces of oil in the water around the boat too. I'd keep it topped up to keep the water out if that would work, and get it slipped somewhere so you can check it properly.

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
11 Apr 2016 10:30AM
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keensailor said..
Discovered water in Saildrive this morning. Assuming it's the seal, although I hope the casing is not breached.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7GvyOr-FTQYOUg2VUx4dDZzMUk


Think there might be a bit of confusion here on saildrive leg water seals. The complete saildrive leg is sealed with a membrane between the leg and hull to keep the sea outside. This is usually a double membrane with a water detection alarm between to indicate when water has breached the outer membrane. This appears to have occurred in your situation. I suspect that you are actually removing the alarm sensor in video.
There is also a gearbox oil seal at the prop shaft which prevents oil leaking from the shaft (and water leaking into the gearbox. Clearly this is not the case in your situation as you would see milky oil on the dipstick which is located top of gearbox and will be a screw seal.
It is usually recommended to change the membrane after 7 years service.

keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
11 Apr 2016 11:48AM
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frant said..


keensailor said..
Discovered water in Saildrive this morning. Assuming it's the seal, although I hope the casing is not breached.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7GvyOr-FTQYOUg2VUx4dDZzMUk




Think there might be a bit of confusion here on saildrive leg water seals. The complete saildrive leg is sealed with a membrane between the leg and hull to keep the sea outside. This is usually a double membrane with a water detection alarm between to indicate when water has breached the outer membrane. This appears to have occurred in your situation. I suspect that you are actually removing the alarm sensor in video.
There is also a gearbox oil seal at the prop shaft which prevents oil leaking from the shaft (and water leaking into the gearbox. Clearly this is not the case in your situation as you would see milky oil on the dipstick which is located top of gearbox and will be a screw seal.
It is usually recommended to change the membrane after 7 years service.



Frant, I think you may be spot on. I spoke with Bukh guy this morning and he said the same thing. I believe the seals would be the original, so 30 years old.
So looks like the water is coming in from the top and sitting on the top.

keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
11 Apr 2016 12:07PM
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The saildrive boot came loose and I removed it some months back. I wonder whether that has put more pressure on the seal. The boot is not meant to be water tight so I don't see why not having one would cause the issue.

keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
21 Apr 2016 9:23PM
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Discovered cause of leak, it was the less of the three evils, a failed seal around prop shaft due to fishing line. Saildrive was full of water when we drained it, with just a little oil left, luckily I have not run it since I first discovered issue. I filled it three times with diesel and flushed it and have left overnight full to the brim with oil. Will drain that oil tomorrow and then finally refill it. Hope it is ok.









slammin
QLD, 998 posts
22 Apr 2016 5:54AM
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I'm no saildrive expert but FWIW, oil and diesel will only dislodge water as they don't mix, right, so wouldn't metho which does mix with water and then evaporate be more suitable? As I said.... Just thinking?

Also, you've probably already done this but can you put it in neutral while the oil or whatever is in there and turn it by hand to dislodge any trapped water?

As I said I m no expert so ignore this if I'm wrong.

Agent nods
622 posts
22 Apr 2016 8:02AM
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Both the diesel and oil have detergents added to absorb water....this is the milky white substance when you get water in oil.

if when the last oil flush has lots of milky deposits, maybe it needs another go.....

ChopesBro
351 posts
22 Apr 2016 12:15PM
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Good to see you found the issue.

Hopefully its easily sorted.

I live in fear of fishing line around the prop.

Some way irrationally. ...so its good to have some support for when I go crazy about lines around the prop and carried on like a crazy freak making sure it is always completely cleared.

P.s 30 years out those seals...wow



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