Woo! New site is online - select here to use it!


Forums > Sailing General

Boat insurance

Reply
Created by stonedpirate > 9 months ago, 26 Apr 2013
stonedpirate
WA, 248 posts
26 Apr 2013 9:09AM
Thumbs Up

Hi,

I am having trouble finding third party boat insurance for my old yacht.

Can anyone recommend a company that insures boats over 20 years old.

Thanks

Fiesta
QLD, 122 posts
26 Apr 2013 12:16PM
Thumbs Up

Try Trident marine. Should come up in google. You will need an "out of water" survey and in some cases will need to provide evidence of fixing any issues the insurer is concerned about. I haven't claimed with them so not sure how well they will respond if that dark day arrives.

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
26 Apr 2013 6:52PM
Thumbs Up

stonedpirate said...

Hi,

I am having trouble finding third party boat insurance for my old yacht.

Can anyone recommend a company that insures boats over 20 years old.

Thanks




If you are over 50 try Apia. Search the thread on insurance down the page a bit.

benoz
WA, 50 posts
26 Apr 2013 9:13PM
Thumbs Up

Trident, nautilus and club marine will all insure older boats. The trick is though, don't ask for third party insurance, fully comprehensive will actually cost less. Much, much less. Don't ask me why, I have no idea...

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
27 Apr 2013 12:17AM
Thumbs Up

Suncorp does third party/public liability for a bit under $100/annum.

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
27 Apr 2013 8:32AM
Thumbs Up

Apia charge $112.

Club Marine and Nautilus wont cover yachts in Jervis Bay even brand new for any money!

Seamonkey_H2024
VIC, 344 posts
9 May 2013 5:24PM
Thumbs Up

How would you go about insuring a $21k yacht on a swing mooring. Should I insure the lot or just get third party?
Also the broker is recommending nautilus?! thoughts?

Rly appreciate your help.

stonedpirate
WA, 248 posts
9 May 2013 3:50PM
Thumbs Up

Shouldnt be a problem if the boat is less than 20 years old and not made of ferro cement or wood.

If it is, then you will have issues.

I would just get comprehensive as third party on boats is the same or more than comprehensive for some reason.

Guess they figure you are more likely to break mooring and hit another boat than sink your own boat.

Good luck :)

zilla
145 posts
9 May 2013 6:25PM
Thumbs Up

Do not use Trident. I was insured with them for years and had never made a claim. One year they went very strange, did not want to renew my insurance, refused to take my 'phone calls to explain why, never responded to emails, etc. Try Nautilus in Perth - they seem honest and helpful and were very happy to take over my insurance after Trident. I've been with them several years (and still I have never made a claim).

Billyboy026
NSW, 25 posts
9 May 2013 9:12PM
Thumbs Up

Hi all,
I am insured with Anchorage Marine and am in NSW for all NSW waters. I pay $473 for a 30ft clansman and am very happy with them, although never claimed. All the best

doug27
NSW, 28 posts
9 May 2013 10:19PM
Thumbs Up

It would appear they are throwing the baby out with the flood water. Spoke to nautilus yesterday and they say that while I am covered at the moment,six weeks before my renewal is due I will get a letter that they don't insure swing moorings anymore.marina or for and aft mooring no problem.did they not see all the yachts proceeding to sea with the flood waters earlier this year secured for and aft to the marina pontoon they were tied to or smashed in the car park of the marina? My boat is currently moored in pittwater at the end of a protected inlet.hopefully someone will think this through.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
10 May 2013 7:22AM
Thumbs Up

Maybe they should hire a yacht or boat owner as their risk assessor.

MichaelR
NSW, 862 posts
10 May 2013 8:25AM
Thumbs Up

NRMA are worth a try, my Top Hat is with them and it's about $500 per year comprehensive without race cover, but we don't race. Apparently, according to the person on the phone, it does cover my rig, which is less than 12 months old.

When I took out the cover, they wanted an on water survey only. I too am moored in Pittwater, which has thousands of boats on swing moorings, seems strange an insurance company is going to wipe out the majority of their market........

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
10 May 2013 8:35AM
Thumbs Up

See my message above about Jervis Bay. Since the catastrophe there awhile back lots of insurance companies have gone queer. You may have cover now but when it comes time to renew you may get a surprise. I think NRMA turned me down because of a swing mooring! They were not the only ones either!

nswsailor
NSW, 1458 posts
10 May 2013 9:09AM
Thumbs Up

I'm with NRMA also Michael, no problems so far, but then I have all my insurance with them. Time will tell.

If this problem gets any worse the marinas better get together and get the problem sorted or they will go out of business, especially those ones relying on cruising yachts for their cream!

Fiesta
QLD, 122 posts
10 May 2013 1:59PM
Thumbs Up

This insurance issue has the potential to really change non professional sailing. I think there is potential niche market for an insurer, for yachts on swing mooring where the necessary risk reductions are in place - i.e evidence of mooring services and robust deck cleats confirmed via survey etc. Its not that hard to have sensible checks for deck cleats, moorings etc, reduce the risk and provide coverage.

The issue here is all the old bangers on moorings that are rarely sailed and have zero maintenance or serviced moorings - increasing everyones risk.

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
10 May 2013 6:45PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Fiesta said..

This insurance issue has the potential to really change non professional sailing. I think there is potential niche market for an insurer, for yachts on swing mooring where the necessary risk reductions are in place - i.e evidence of mooring services and robust deck cleats confirmed via survey etc. Its not that hard to have sensible checks for deck cleats, moorings etc, reduce the risk and provide coverage.

The issue here is all the old bangers on moorings that are rarely sailed and have zero maintenance or serviced moorings - increasing everyones risk.




Not really.
The old mooring minders are probably not insured at all. I have seen a mooring failed only a few weeks of being "professionally" serviced!



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Sailing General


"Boat insurance" started by stonedpirate