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Carter 33 Yacht

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Created by Pit Pony > 9 months ago, 20 Sep 2014
Pit Pony
NSW, 21 posts
20 Sep 2014 8:21PM
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I'm looking at buying a carter 33. I've heard all the stories about old IOR boats being a bit of a hand full off the wind. Anyone out there with first hand experience on this type of boat with some advice. Looking to do coastal cruising in the short term before upgrading her for some blue water passages. Thanks.

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
21 Sep 2014 9:09AM
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bigfred said..
I'm looking at buying a carter 33. I've heard all the stories about old IOR boats being a bit of a hand full off the wind. Anyone out there with first hand experience on this type of boat with some advice. Looking to do coastal cruising in the short term before upgrading her for some blue water passages. Thanks.


I was keen on buying a rear cockpit Carter 33 but they were expensive at the time. The cockpit layout was not suitable for cruising, it was mainly a race boat in the Australian versions. The Carter 33 has probably the best reputation amongst the IOR boats for downwind stability. I have had no direct experience sailing one and I suggest you search the "Sailing Anarchy Forums" for the Carter 33 thread.
This is one thread on Carters and there is plenty on 33's there. The Australian carter 33's have the same or very similar hull as the overseas versions its just the decks are different.
forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/120735-dick-carter-design-boats/&page=6

Pit Pony
NSW, 21 posts
21 Sep 2014 6:49PM
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bigfred said..
Thanks for your input Ramona. I'll check out the threads.



Ramona said..

bigfred said..
I'm looking at buying a carter 33. I've heard all the stories about old IOR boats being a bit of a hand full off the wind. Anyone out there with first hand experience on this type of boat with some advice. Looking to do coastal cruising in the short term before upgrading her for some blue water passages. Thanks.



I was keen on buying a rear cockpit Carter 33 but they were expensive at the time. The cockpit layout was not suitable for cruising, it was mainly a race boat in the Australian versions. The Carter 33 has probably the best reputation amongst the IOR boats for downwind stability. I have had no direct experience sailing one and I suggest you search the "Sailing Anarchy Forums" for the Carter 33 thread.
This is one thread on Carters and there is plenty on 33's there. The Australian carter 33's have the same or very similar hull as the overseas versions its just the decks are different.
forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/120735-dick-carter-design-boats/&page=6



Thanks for your input Ramona. I'll check out the threads.

MorningBird
NSW, 2711 posts
21 Sep 2014 7:25PM
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I have an S&S34 which have a reputation for being a handful off the wind. The only time I have experienced it being a handful is on another boat running with a spinnaker up and a quartering swell. It did cork screw in those conditions.
I have never found mine to too much of a handful in cruising configuration. The Fleming vane and the Simrad tiller pilot handle it without a problem. They aren't brilliant but nothing to worry about.
The Carter is probably better than the S&S as Ramona noted above.

Pit Pony
NSW, 21 posts
21 Sep 2014 8:58PM
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MorningBird said..
I have an S&S34 which have a reputation for being a handful off the wind. The only time I have experienced it being a handful is on another boat running with a spinnaker up and a quartering swell. It did cork screw in those conditions.
I have never found mine to too much of a handful in cruising configuration. The Fleming vane and the Simrad tiller pilot handle it without a problem. They aren't brilliant but nothing to worry about.
The Carter is probably better than the S&S as Ramona noted above.


Really like the S&S 34 design also. Nice boats. thanks for the reply.

riverider
TAS, 1112 posts
21 Sep 2014 9:34PM
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bigfred said..
I'm looking at buying a carter 33. I've heard all the stories about old IOR boats being a bit of a hand full off the wind. Anyone out there with first hand experience on this type of boat with some advice. Looking to do coastal cruising in the short term before upgrading her for some blue water passages. Thanks.


Don't know a lot about the carter, but I've done a bit of offshore racing on old IOR boats over the years, yes they can be a hand full in hard running conditions with a masthead kite on, they will roll like nothing else if you don't have a skilled helmsman in charge, but if your only cruising that won't be a problem and most sail to windward pretty well.

Pit Pony
NSW, 21 posts
21 Sep 2014 10:07PM
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riverider said..

bigfred said..
I'm looking at buying a carter 33. I've heard all the stories about old IOR boats being a bit of a hand full off the wind. Anyone out there with first hand experience on this type of boat with some advice. Looking to do coastal cruising in the short term before upgrading her for some blue water passages. Thanks.



Don't know a lot about the carter, but I've done a bit of offshore racing on old IOR boats over the years, yes they can be a hand full in hard running conditions with a masthead kite on, they will roll like nothing else if you don't have a skilled helmsman in charge, but if your only cruising that won't be a problem and most sail to windward pretty well.


Thanks riverider. Similar comments to those I've recieved from the boys & girls at my sailing club. looking at a boat next week end.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
22 Sep 2014 1:22AM
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MorningBird said..
The Carter is probably better than the S&S as Ramona noted above.



The Carter maybe has a tad more beam and a tad wider stern.

The S&S 34 was designed as a 3/4 tonner.

Was the Carter also or was it a 1 tonner??

Regardless, most old IOR yachts make GREAT fast cruising yachts.

Ramona
NSW, 7758 posts
22 Sep 2014 8:50AM
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cisco said..

MorningBird said..
The Carter is probably better than the S&S as Ramona noted above.




The Carter maybe has a tad more beam and a tad wider stern.

The S&S 34 was designed as a 3/4 tonner.

Was the Carter also or was it a 1 tonner??

Regardless, most old IOR yachts make GREAT fast cruising yachts.


Some debate about that.
forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/97978-carter-34-ton-history/

The Carter 33 has a very deep rudder compared to others in that era, UFO's, SS34 etc.



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