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Donaldson & Baldwin Oil Filters.

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Created by cisco > 9 months ago, 11 Jun 2016
cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
11 Jun 2016 11:04PM
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I am doing oil and filter changes on our two cars.

My preferred lube oil is Bimrose All Seasons which is particularly good for older engines and I use it in my boat engine too. Their products are top quality.

www.bimrose.com.au/

So I have bought the oil from our local distributor which was $50 for a 5 litre pack which is no more than you pay for any other quality oil, then I go to the shop where the farmers shop for my oil filters.

They are for a Fairmont and a Corolla and I say to the guy I want the best quality ones. Ah, he says, best quality?? He then informs me that Donaldson and Baldwin now put out filters with a synthetic filtration medium that can filter down to 2 microns without reducing oil flow and can thereby double the service life of the oil.

www.donaldson.com/en-us/errors/404/

http://www.baldwinfilters.com.au/

The engineers among us will now retort and say "You should always stick to the recommended oil change periods no matter what!!" and I agree.

However if there is a better filter available it will logically follow that it will improve the lubricating performance of the oil. That is a good thing.

I have dealt with this guy before and I trust his advice. He related some examples of the performance of the filters and said that he used them in his Falcon and after 20,000 klms he dropped his oil and it looked almost new.

The filters are about 3 times the price and not available in all sizes but if you can get one for your boat engine I think it is worth the little extra expence. The marine environment is probably as harsh as construction and mine sites.

Just thought I would pass that bit of info on as we all like to get the best out of our marine engines. Cheers Cisco.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
12 Jun 2016 1:14AM
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In my bikes, l detest cars would burn them all, l change the oil in four thousand k's and filters eight thousand. Whatever they recommend, l do not care.
In old diesels, the same. I do not use fancy stuff. Valvoline diesel l use.
In my boat 100 hours or six months whichever comes first, oil, filter, all. Valvoline diesel, Ryco filter, 25 bucks a change. Could not be cheaper.
Oil and filter is peanuts compared to major engine work.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
12 Jun 2016 9:53PM
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sirgallivant said..

Oil and filter is peanuts compared to major engine work.




That is precisely my point. Why not spend first class on oil and filters so as to avoid "Major engine work"???????????????????????

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
12 Jun 2016 10:41PM
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From what I recall oil goes acidic after a period of use I can't see filters removing that.

Bushdog
SA, 313 posts
12 Jun 2016 11:03PM
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And not to mention that good old deisel oil goes black, sometimes quickly, other times less so, then you have acidic carbonised oil. If I'm not rushed, I use some engine flush, then drain the oil, turn over the engine a few times to empty the oil pump, pour 250ml clean oil in to flush out the remaining old stuff, then add yah new filter and oil. It's a bit over the top, but the sump oil stays looking clean for a cou of months. +1 for the idea of regular oil and filter changes. Crawling round the engine also means regular checks of coolant pipes, connections etc.

Ramona
NSW, 7757 posts
13 Jun 2016 8:50AM
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I use Baldwin filters on my Volvo because they are cheap and readily available from the local truck parts place. With oil for your boat diesels stick with what the manufacturer recommends, especially the grade and if possible use mono. If using a multigrade stick with the cheap stuff meant for older engines and ensure it has adequate zinc content.

That Bimrose logo looks suspiciously like the Lucas oil label. Another name change for the company?

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
13 Jun 2016 10:11AM
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HG02 said..
From what I recall oil goes acidic after a period of use I can't see filters removing that.


I did mention this to the guy in the shop.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
13 Jun 2016 10:16AM
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Ramona said..


That Bimrose logo looks suspiciously like the Lucas oil label. Another name change for the company?


Different outfit altogether.

Bimrose buy their "raw" oil from the refineries but have it ceramic filtered four times instead of just the once as all service station oil is. Then they put in their additives to spec the oil for different applications.

Trek
NSW, 1216 posts
15 Jun 2016 6:36AM
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Its good to have knowledgeable help on this subject.

Whats the recommended oil to keep my old Volvo MD 2003 going? And I guess those Donaldson & Baldwin Oil Filters are what I should replace the existing one with? I guess I can get them at Repco or similar?

Advice appreciated.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
15 Jun 2016 2:13PM
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Baldwin and Donaldson have standard cellulose (paper) filters and the new synthetic element filters which are about 3 times the price. Nothing wrong with the standard filters but the synthetic element filters are supposed to be more efficient.

The Bimrose All Seasons Super oil (25W60 - API - SG/CD) is blended using virgin base oil. They say "The ultimate in year round protection for older petrol,LPG and diesel engines up to and including D9's etc, and a very good competition oil.

Every engine I have put it in runs better. If you are going to use cheap "Super Market oil", you are asking for trouble.

Go on the Bimrose web site to locate a distributor.

www.bimrose.com.au/

Agent nods
622 posts
15 Jun 2016 1:28PM
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Good mate of mine runs a diesel injection company....

For older diesels always use single weight oil ....

Modern diesels with turbo/common rail injection....use nothing but the recommended, - a good part of his business is fixing injection systems on modern engines from "mechanics" that used different oils etc, because they knew better than the company that spent millions designing and testing the engine they sold.

Ramona
NSW, 7757 posts
15 Jun 2016 6:35PM
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Trek said..


Its good to have knowledgeable help on this subject.

Whats the recommended oil to keep my old Volvo MD 2003 going? And I guess those Donaldson & Baldwin Oil Filters are what I should replace the existing one with? I guess I can get them at Repco or similar?

Advice appreciated.


Probably have to go to a truck place for the filter. Try to use a mono oil if you can, 30 grade or 40. Or the 15 - 40 multigrade from K-mart LF/LC I think it is for $12 for 4 litres is fine.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
15 Jun 2016 10:33PM
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Ramona said..

Probably have to go to a truck place for the filter. Try to use a mono oil if you can, 30 grade or 40. Or the 15 - 40 multigrade from K-mart LF/LC I think it is for $12 for 4 litres is fine.



I am just not quite getting you there Ramona. On the one hand you say...Try to use a mono oil if you can, 30 grade or 40.

Then you say...Or the 15 - 40 multigrade from K-mart LF/LC I think it is for $12 for 4 litres is fine.

At $3 per litre you will not be getting quality oil. Caltex Havoline, which is a quality oil, was $11 per litre last time I bought it at a servo. Bimrose oil is $1 per litre less but I believe a better quality oil.

The better the quality of oil you put in your engine, the longer it is going to last and there is no disputing that principle.

Ramona
NSW, 7757 posts
16 Jun 2016 9:18AM
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To buy mono grade oil these days you have to go to an oil depot or tractor place and usually buy a 20 litre container. Mono oil is better as it has less additives and suits marine engines that operate at pretty much the same temperature all the time. Raw water cooled engines in particular operate much cooler than what we expect our car engines to operate at and this is where the mono oil shines. The main engine in my old fishing vessel is a Gardner 6LW. 66 years old and all original parts. She has had 40 grade mono all these years, blows no smoke but uses some oil. It leaks out because there are not many gaskets, it's Gardner's method of anti corrosion! She is about to go back into service as a prawn trawler out of Batemans Bay.

The 15-40 multigrade is what most marine diesels use these days because its readily available and suits the old technology of marine diesels. Any of the oils for use in diesels will have enough zinc because the law has not banned it's use these grades. Always aim for at least 1200ppm. Oil does not wear out it just gets dirty. Diesel oil in particular gets contaminated and should be changed regularly. If you need a name brand just use Shell Hellix at $20 for 4 litres. That's enough for two changes with my Volvo. Avoid synthetic and oils designed for modern cars.

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/images/PENR0138_Penrite_Zinc%20Tech%20Bulletin.pdf

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
16 Jun 2016 11:31AM
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That is interesting re mono grade oils and zinc content.

I would certainly trust Penrite oils.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
16 Jun 2016 11:36AM
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That Gardner seems to running better than you and me Romona



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