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Electrician to change mast head globes in Sydney harbour.

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Created by Cav30 > 9 months ago, 23 Mar 2017
Cav30
NSW, 122 posts
23 Mar 2017 11:43AM
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Any recommendations? Im moored in Double Bay.

Need someone to get up the mast and change all the globes.

Or is it easier to take it somewhere.

Cavalier 30.

ThanksEd

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
23 Mar 2017 11:58AM
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I have a chair you can borrow if you want to do it yourself.

Cav30
NSW, 122 posts
23 Mar 2017 12:36PM
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Guess i should search.....

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Boat-electrician-Sydney-area

:-)

Not sure about going up myself.

fishmonkey
NSW, 494 posts
23 Mar 2017 12:41PM
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maybe you are planning to do this anyway, but it's a good idea to change them to LEDs...

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
23 Mar 2017 12:03PM
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If you are going to pay someone, get a yacht rigger to do it and get a rig check while he is at it. That way you kill two birds with one stone.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
23 Mar 2017 4:28PM
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What are you planning to change the globes for? LED's?
Do not want to disappoint you but it won't work, most likely.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
23 Mar 2017 5:07PM
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sirgallivant said..
What are you planning to change the globes for? LED's?
Do not want to disappoint you but it won't work, most likely.



Why?

Cav30
NSW, 122 posts
23 Mar 2017 6:33PM
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I thought everyone was changing to LEDs. I was just looking at ledsonline and they specifically sell them for mastheads and nav lights.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
23 Mar 2017 6:51PM
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I have replaced all globes including spreaders lights with led no problem at all.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
23 Mar 2017 6:56PM
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I had finished 're-rigging my tub and l was thinking the same.
It turned out, those led lights they are selling as 'replacement bulbs' for old type mast head lights are not compatible with the regulations.
One could replace them, but they are vastly inferior to the proper led's.
There is a safety concern as they are not visible from the regulation distance.
If you need a survey one day, it is not going to pass if you live long enough according to an electrician.
Got all replaced, masthead and anchor light, steaming light as well. The super bright deck light itself was worth it.
Now the juice consumption is less - burning them all - than one old deck light was before.

And l am legal to boot!

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
23 Mar 2017 6:41PM
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Haven't seen many boating and fisheries officers climbing to the top of masts lately to check what type of lamp you have fitted. From what I understand there is no problems fitting led lamps. My new boat was retrofitted with led masthead lamps before I even took delivery. Sounds like someone wanted to sell a nice new light fitting.

fishmonkey
NSW, 494 posts
23 Mar 2017 7:48PM
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it's not that LEDs are not okay, however some may not meet the required regulations. the same issue can happen with non-LED lamps too.

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
23 Mar 2017 5:40PM
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You'd probably be fine until you had a collision at night and some smart alec insurance assessor discovered your non compliant lights and refused your claim.

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
23 Mar 2017 8:26PM
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The only thing I can find in the regulations is what types of lights are required for the size and type of boat you have. The is no mention of led or incandescent. In is funny the smaller the boat the less amount of light is required.

claverton
NSW, 165 posts
23 Mar 2017 9:27PM
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rather than hiring someone, an alternative would be to buy safe proper gear to go up a mast unassisted. I haven't costed this out yet but I doubt you'd have much change from $300 (guessing on this number). I'm not sure what it'd cost to hire someone to go up the mast but going up yourself may pay for the gear...or at least some of it and you'll own it. This is the best info I've come across re safe gear to get up a mast solo:
l-36.com/unassisted_mast_climbing.php

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
23 Mar 2017 7:38PM
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Jode5 said..
The only thing I can find in the regulations is what types of lights are required for the size and type of boat you have. The is no mention of led or incandescent. In is funny the smaller the boat the less amount of light is required.



Good for you if you can understand this (section 7):

www.otenmaritime.com/international-collision-regulations/annexes/annex-i---positioning-and-technical-details-of-lights-and-shapes

This is from the Aqua Signal site:

The bulbs used in Aqua Signal navigation lights form part of its approval / certification. Reserve bulbs must also be approved. In the case of a claim being made on an insurance policy you risk loss of your insurance cover if your equipment does not comply with regulations. In the interest of safety we recommend that you only used approved materials.


http://www.aquasignal.com.au/replacement_bulbs/

Doesn't make sense to me trying to save a measly few bucks putting eBay bought globes in OEM gear when there are warnings such as this.


nickic
NSW, 60 posts
23 Mar 2017 10:53PM
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We did ours. It was quite a ball ache. We did not replace them with LED because of the regulations issue. it was a much bigger job than expected because the old fitting was so corroded we had to replace that too and couldn't find one that fitted exactly. We got it sorted eventually but a test of tenacity, ingenuity and marital harmony was required.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
24 Mar 2017 9:22AM
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I sense a drift here, from the original question of 'change globes' to general 'change for LED's'.

I was writing about the inadequacy of exchanging old light globes for led globes
Old lights, tricolors, anchor lights etc. refurbished with led globes. It is a nono, l was told.

There is - of course - nothing wrong to fit led. units like 'Aquasignal's' to ones mast head.
I did it myself recently.
I was warning against removing the old halogen or incandescent or whatever globe from the old light and replacing it with unknown quality led globes.
The replacement globes - l was warned - are the peccant part as they are not regulation quality.
The whole light and wiring ought to be changed. The complete unit for appropriate quality.

I could not be happier with my new led lights and so are my batteries.

Bansha
6 posts
24 Mar 2017 11:57PM
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I can climb, and i am a qualified rigger if your still looking for someone.
Leds are good for all the obvious reasons, but as others have stated they vary in quality..

PM for questions regarding climbing/lights



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