There has been a it of grief on here lately. It's not the first time and despite that we've gradually built a place of learning, tolerance, support and fun. Interpersonal conflict, online forum conflict and trolling are common phenomena so I asked Sensei Google for some accumulated wisdom on the topic.
Here's a nicely written article:
www.webroot.com/au/en/resources/tips-articles/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll
but this one, written by an ex-troll, is the best I read in my short research:
99u.adobe.com/articles/25151/dont-feed-the-haters-the-confessions-of-a-former-troll
Good advice for real life living too!
"Two things happen when you wrestle a pig in the mud: You both get dirty and the pig enjoys it."
"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
The news paper/s trolled Joe Hockey calling him "treasurer for sale" and Joe took exception and got awarded $200,000 in damages.
One must be careful about what he/she posts on social media.
A young guy in the U.S. has had his life ruined by being branded a paedophile because his underage girlfriend sent a nudie of herself to his phone and he got caught with it.
Select to expand quotecisco said...
A young guy in the U.S. has had his life ruined by being branded a paedophile because his underage girlfriend sent a nudie of herself to his phone and he got caught with it.
Erhh wahht?... So is he not a pedophile?
Select to expand quotesouthace said..
Testing 123? It's not meeeeee 
Woohoo.... !!! 
It may as well be me, I will not be participating in here again till some order and manners are in place. The behaviour of some in here has been worse than politicians in Parliament. Bloody disgusting petulant school kids.
Select to expand quoteLooseChange said..
It may as well be me, I will not be participating in here again till some order and manners are in place. The behaviour of some in here has been worse than politicians in Parliament. Bloody disgusting petulant school kids.
Don't go Loose Change... you have been really helpful!!
Select to expand quotecisco said..
The news paper/s trolled Joe Hockey calling him "treasurer for sale" and Joe took exception and got awarded $200,000 in damages.
Was it this image he didn't like?
Or was it this one he didn't like?
Or was it this one?
Select to expand quoteSirJman said..cisco said...
A young guy in the U.S. has had his life ruined by being branded a paedophile because his underage girlfriend sent a nudie of herself to his phone and he got caught with it.
Erhh wahht?... So is he not a pedophile?
No, he is not a paedophile. He just got caught up in a ridiculous situation where through a technicality of the law he ended up on the register. Sorry, I do not have the original article to post. Google???
Select to expand quotekiteboy dave said..cisco said..
The news paper/s trolled Joe Hockey calling him "treasurer for sale" and Joe took exception and got awarded $200,000 in damages.
Was it this image he didn't like?
Or was it this one he didn't like?
Or was it this one?
Doesn't matter which one. The point is:- "One must be careful about what he/she posts on social media."
Select to expand quoteMcNaughtical said..
I notice that one of our learned colleagues has been suspended from here.
As far as I can recall this is the first time this has happened in the sailing forum and it really is a pity. I have not seen a thread deleted before either.
It looked last night that the situation had settled down but someone has pushed the issue.
Everybody needs to be mindful of the forum rules, particularly Rule 1 through to Rule 50.
Rule 1...........Keep it fun.
Rules 2 to 50.................Refer to Rule 1.
Below is a copy of a warning of another forum (industry) that I regularly visit. Moderation on it is very common as in many many posts everyday. The forum owners have found themselves in legal trouble as have individuals. They take no prisoners and there is not much wiggle room from straying too close to the edge. You are not immune to the law in these types of forums.
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Select to expand quotekiteboy dave said..
cisco said..
The news paper/s trolled Joe Hockey calling him "treasurer for sale" and Joe took exception and got awarded $200,000 in damages.
Was it this image he didn't like?
Or was it this one he didn't like?
Or was it this one?
Actually the claim was made Not against either of those head lines, it was about a Tweat with just the headline #treasurerforsale. By one of the papers. It was deemed in court that the headline on its own was defamatory/missleading and he was awarded the money for that. That has set a precedence about social media and its promotion moving forward
As for the pedo claim, a mate was all excited a few years back when he was sent the picture of the young girl at the centre of the St Kilda scandal. He quickly deleted it once i warned him, technically that is child porn 
Select to expand quoteAs far as I can recall this is the first time this has happened in the sailing forum and it really is a pity. I have not seen a thread deleted before either.
It's a pity. But naughty children will be put on detention and the teacher usually doesn't care who started it. I must have missed some of the action I think.
Wasn't the ferro fiji Len thread deleted?
Select to expand quoteMcNaughtical said..
ummm.... make that two of our learned friends suspended....
May I ask who ?
I find the best way to deal with people on forums who annoy me is to tell them to go to hell but do it in a way that they look forward to making the journey
In reality though it is not worth getting upset over what someone types because it is only a forum and not real
If they really upset you and you are a Mormon like me you can find out where they live and send the missionaries around to teach them the gospel
Regards Don
I was suspended for abusing frant. My world came.crumbling down.
He then.got.my.new.profile.queen bee suspended. Such a snitch.
This forum doesn't really serve a purpose. Its a place where people pick on each other and egos battle it out with their stories and big words. Barely any creative juices flowing.
Im a member of a royal enfield motorcycle forum for years. Complete opposite of this. Everyone on that site learns helps and shares. Noone cares about a spelling/grammatical mistake. I posted something on seabreeze a while back about a grib file and said that it could be a cpu hog. 1 member had then taken screen shots of the programne and his computers cpu diagnostics and had to tell me i was wrong. The point of the post was a great weather modelling programme. But it was then turned into "your wrong im right" and the focus of the initial post was lost.
This happens here all the time. Its no fun. You cant learn grow and share that way.
Select to expand quoteSectorsteve said..
I was suspended for abusing frant. My world came.crumbling down.
He then.got.my.new.profile.queen bee suspended. Such a snitch.
This forum doesn't really serve a purpose. Its a place where people pick on each other and egos battle it out with their stories and big words. Barely any creative juices flowing.
Im a member of a royal enfield motorcycle forum for years. Complete opposite of this. Everyone on that site learns helps and shares. Noone cares about a spelling/grammatical mistake. I posted something on seabreeze a while back about a grib file and said that it could be a cpu hog. 1 member had then taken screen shots of the programne and his computers cpu diagnostics and had to tell me i was wrong. The point of the post was a great weather modelling programme. But it was then turned into "your wrong im right" and the focus of the initial post was lost.
This happens here all the time. Its no fun. You cant learn grow and share that way.
in my experience forums that are largely unmoderated are the most interesting to be around, as people get to show their personalities. however unmoderated forums regularly go through periods of implosion when people lose perspective and get carried away.
anyway, i haven't been here long but there are clearly lots of friendly, knowledgeable and helpful people around.
to be honest i find it strange that you express a dystopian view of the state of this forum, but then also choose to engage in abuse and sock puppetry.
as they say, it takes two to tango...
i've also never been on a forum where people spit the dummy and claim to be leaving so often!
Because its pointless. I came here to learn stuff when i started out sailing but that stopped happening ages ago. Lately logging on here between.sails.i.hope.to.see something new.or.learn.something.
I.dont.get.anything out of it so.no point hanging aroun
Sector we have covered in past few months buying a new boat, what a boats worth, anchors , tenders , fractional rigs, reefing, re-building , fixing keel joints , antifouls, females on the forum! What else would you like to know ? Start a topic mate
Nice paragraphing and video fishmonkey can you just refresh my mind on what type of yacht you own as I noticed your a new member here?
HG got the flick until the 20 th. I hope he'll be back but somehow doubt it.
Not long age he sent me spares for my Taylor's cooker and refused payment. The man was a gentleman an enthusiastic and helpful member and as long as I have been reading the threads I've not seen him do anything untoward.
Frant got the flick for the same period.
For as long as I've been reading the threads he has come across as an absolute plonker.
Makes you wonder sometimes!
So , is it safe to stick my head up out of the bunker ? ...................
or is this just the calm before the storm ?
its like coming home from work to find a soldering war zone on sea-breeze ...................
is this a 24 hr or 48 hr truce /suspension ?
where do we go from here ?
what was that spiel from sectorsteve , was that Hg speaking from the lockup ?
so-many questions ....... its sort of like the start of a Batman episode ......................
Your just lucky to be still here Sands! On that note I guess I also was on boarder line!
Just carry on as once before.
Select to expand quotejapie said..
HG got the flick until the 20 th. I hope he'll be back but somehow doubt it.
Not long age he sent me spares for my Taylor's cooker and refused payment. The man was a gentleman an enthusiastic and helpful member and as long as I have been reading the threads I've not seen him do anything untoward.
Frant got the flick for the same period.
For as long as I've been reading the threads he has come across as an absolute plonker.
Makes you wonder sometimes!
Thanks for your heads up last night japie
Select to expand quotejapie said..
HG got the flick until the 20 th. I hope he'll be back but somehow doubt it.
Not long age he sent me spares for my Taylor's cooker and refused payment. The man was a gentleman an enthusiastic and helpful member and as long as I have been reading the threads I've not seen him do anything untoward.
Frant got the flick for the same period.
For as long as I've been reading the threads he has come across as an absolute plonker.
Makes you wonder sometimes!
didnt see this before all my questions ................
i recon you are spot on in your summing up of the situation
i just get the feeling once frant appears back on the scene this will eventually happen again .
i have trouble ignoring crap like that so i think my days may be numbered here as well .................... what will be will be i suppose
Select to expand quotesouthace said..
Your just lucky to be still here Sands! On that note I guess I also was on boarder line!
Just carry on as once before.
Yes your right we were lucky not to get get rubbed out i think ...................... if i do carry on as once before , my days here are numbered I would say .
Probably for the best . I just cant stand reading the self absorbed rubbish that flows from his posts ............... but while reading a thread , its
hard not to read his posts as well .
I have been reading posts on here for years ,and learning lots of stuff . And occasionally putting in my two bobs worth, its been great. But since he has been a regular on here, the tone of the conversation has taken a massive turn for the worse.
It's a real shame that one person can foul things up like that. As a lot of you know I contribute on heavy weather which is a bit like cage fighting at times but the sailing forum is about sailing and there really is no need for nastiness whatsoever. It is all about sharing a common enjoyment and I know I have picked up so many good tips on here.
My mum used to have a great saying, if you can't think of anything nice to say then don't say anything and we should keep it that way. A bit of gentle ribbing does no harm, guess that's why we've all learned to put up with Cisco
but Frant, I don't know, has some sort of complex. I couldn't give a tinkers if he was the most accomplished sailor in the Southern Hemisphere there's simply no call for nastiness.
Like I said the best way to deal with it is ignore it. The other option is to alert the moderators right away if someone gets out of line and hope that they have enough interest in keeping the forum fun and informative. Although I sometimes wonder at some of their decisions. That said they did eventually manage to get rid of Milsy whom you could only give credit for perseverance. The problem with that is nobody likes snitches.
I often think that the best way to combat it would be to get rid of anonymity and use real names but then that has its risks.
And no worries Bannana!
Just hope HG comes back. I know he got a lot of enjoyment on the forum as many of us got a lot of enjoyment from his contributions.
