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New Toilet Leaking

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Created by keensailor > 9 months ago, 11 Dec 2013
keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
12 Dec 2013 12:46AM
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howdy
Cannot seem to stop this leak from the discharge elbow on the toilet even with 2 clamps done up as tight as I can get them. I noticed that the 38mm hose slipped over the discharge elbow too easily. Elbow is 38mm according to the manual but because the hose is soo rigid I don't think the clamps are taking up the slack.
Any ideas on fixing this problem, thought I could use silicon, but there must be a better way ;)







brizzydave
406 posts
11 Dec 2013 10:30PM
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If you need to bulk out the "barbed" elbow connection, grab some of the pink or better still yellow gas teflon tape. Wind it around as many times as you need to get a better fit. Maybe use the heavy style clamps and not the utilux style radiator hose clamps you have there. The heavy ones are an industrial single band of stainless that gets done up with a hex socket and would be better on that style of pipe that is ribbed and looks like a vacuum style hose. Don't crush your plastic fitting though. Another way is to dip your hose into a jug of boiled water. Much easier if you are trying to expand it though.

Get a pair of multi grips....and gently squeeze them on the flat section of pipe behind the barb all around to provide a little bit of "tooth" if using silicon or tape.

DAMA
QLD, 239 posts
12 Dec 2013 12:38AM
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I second that Dave, jug of hot water to help mold the hose to the barb, as it is probably flared out a bit from previous installation.
( is the old elbow interchangeable?)

spongeblob
NSW, 218 posts
12 Dec 2013 1:39AM
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Right up your alley BrizzyD, that's some good advice.
Ever thought about doing plumbing for a living ?


BAHAHAHA

brizzydave
406 posts
11 Dec 2013 10:49PM
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:-( now I gotta wait six months for another simple plumbing thingy to pop up......sigh....

brizzydave
406 posts
11 Dec 2013 10:51PM
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Ha ha! Look at your avatar thingy...you legend!!!!

spongeblob
NSW, 218 posts
12 Dec 2013 1:59AM
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must be a old photo, me guts to small. will send you my bands cd's, songs bout boats and babes
and the difficult 2nd album,
More songs bout boats and babes.

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
12 Dec 2013 2:07AM
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keensailor said..

howdy
Cannot seem to stop this leak from the discharge elbow on the toilet even with 2 clamps done up as tight as I can get them. I noticed that the 38mm hose slipped over the discharge elbow too easily. Elbow is 38mm according to the manual but because the hose is soo rigid I don't think the clamps are taking up the slack.
Any ideas on fixing this problem, thought I could use silicon, but there must be a better way ;)


That plastic reinforced hose you are using is terrible stuff to work with. Very difficult to even get a 90 degree cut off the end using a hacksaw.

It has very little compressibility when clamping onto a barb even with two clamps and you should nearly always use two clamps.

The yellow on the outside, black on the inside hose is good to work with as long as bends are not so sharp as to make the hose kink.

Whitworths do not necessarily sell the best products for boats.

They get a huge amount of their gear from this guy, Bob Littler. bla.com.au/marketing/maintenance.html

keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
12 Dec 2013 7:45AM
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thanks for that!
I will use the teflon tape and try and buy some of those heavier duty clamps (whitworths ?)

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
12 Dec 2013 11:07PM
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Hi Keensailor

I recently replaced mine and I used this type of clamp instead of a worm drive clamp




When you buy them you need to know the exact outside diameter of the hose as each size clamp will only work on a 3-4mm variance in hose diameter

They are available from marine stores or industrial supply company's such as Blackwoods
www.blackwoods.com.au/hoses-hose-fittings/clamps-clips-hose/t-bolt-heavy-duty-hose-clamps-zinc-plated-and-full-stainless-steel/c/307761150/202004619/variants

Regards Don

keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
14 Dec 2013 2:35PM
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Donk107 said..

Hi Keensailor

I recently replaced mine and I used this type of clamp instead of a worm drive clamp




When you buy them you need to know the exact outside diameter of the hose as each size clamp will only work on a 3-4mm variance in hose diameter

They are available from marine stores or industrial supply company's such as Blackwoods
www.blackwoods.com.au/hoses-hose-fittings/clamps-clips-hose/t-bolt-heavy-duty-hose-clamps-zinc-plated-and-full-stainless-steel/c/307761150/202004619/variants

Regards Don





thanks, yes I picked up one from Pirtek

southace
SA, 4803 posts
14 Dec 2013 2:29PM
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I had enough trouble getting that hose onto my tmc and holding tank had to use direct heat (gas) it's a real pain to get the hose of when (if) I get a blockage. It seems amazing the different tolerance between two different toilet fittings.

keensailor
NSW, 702 posts
15 Dec 2013 10:27PM
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southace said..

I had enough trouble getting that hose onto my tmc and holding tank had to use direct heat (gas) it's a real pain to get the hose of when (if) I get a blockage. It seems amazing the different tolerance between two different toilet fittings.



yes, I had a hell of a time getting this hose onto the elbow fittings which screw into the sea cocks.



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