I've done a search on here for info on Yachtmasters qualification and zut turned up.
Am thinking quite seriously about a diversion in career. Four people have asked me to sail their boats for them, deliveries, but figured I really need to get some form of qualification. Have been advised that the Yachtmasters is the way to go.
Can anyone shed some light on providers?
There was a discussion recently Japie, about yachtmaster vs coxswain...., here it is www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Coxswains-Vs-Yachtmaster/
As far as I know....Don't think you "need" any formal qualifications to skipper/deliver(either being paid or not) any recreational yacht unless there are paying passengers onboard. And as , you will likely have to pay any crew that assists you on the deliveries, qualifications are not applicable.
The owners just have to do their "due diligence" on you & your experience.
Thanks for that HG, Bluemoon.
I was off line from the 5th January for two weeks. Will read through that thread.
Japie, I have done several Navathome courses and I'm currently working my way through their Yachtmasters course. I can highly recommend it.
What it really comes down to is, do you know your stuff.
If you have sufficient honest sea time that is logged, be it your own yacht's log book that is backed by a stat dec or sea time on other vessels signed off by masters or owners you can be sat for the relevant exam by the relevant authority on recognition of prior learning.
The situation also depends on what the owner of the vessel to be delivered requires of the person taking charge of the vessel.
When vessels are taken to sea democracy ends and autocracy starts. One person must be declared "Master of the Vessel" and that person carries all of the responsibility and the burden of decision making which must be adhered to by the crew. Crew does what it is told and that is that.
Don't forget the insurance angle especially if you are delivering other peoples boats.
I had coxswain and master V but believe the inernationally recognised RYA Yachtmaster and Yachtmaster Ocean is the best form of training and qualification to have.
The RYA certs dont expire like mine did when I left my job as a hydrographic surveyor to go recreational sailing on my own boat. My sea time sailing in the 1990's became worthless as it was non commercial so I lost my qualifications after 5 years.
I have sailed as mate or crew aboard 4 different charter yachts that sail out of Ushuaia to Antarctica South Georgia etc and they are all skippered by RYA Yachtmaster Ocean qualified sailors.
So go RYA as it is also YA recognised
Wayne
Select to expand quoteAmbler said..
Don't forget the insurance angle especially if you are delivering other peoples boats.
I had coxswain and master V but believe the inernationally recognised RYA Yachtmaster and Yachtmaster Ocean is the best form of training and qualification to have.
The RYA certs dont expire like mine did when I left my job as a hydrographic surveyor to go recreational sailing on my own boat. My sea time sailing in theNZ 1990's became worthless as it was non commercial so I lost my qualifications after 5 years.
I have sailed as mate or crew aboard 4 different charter yachts that sail out of Ushuaia to Antarctica South Georgia etc and they are all skippered by RYA Yachtmaster Ocean qualified sailors.
So go RYA as it is also YA recognised
Wayne
Hi Ambler,
So whose Coxswain & master V certificate did you have? . Shame it had an expiry clause.
regards,
allan
Select to expand quoteDatawiz said...Ambler said..
Don't forget the insurance angle especially if you are delivering other peoples boats.
I had coxswain and master V but believe the inernationally recognised RYA Yachtmaster and Yachtmaster Ocean is the best form of training and qualification to have.
The RYA certs dont expire like mine did when I left my job as a hydrographic surveyor to go recreational sailing on my own boat. My sea time sailing in theNZ 1990's became worthless as it was non commercial so I lost my qualifications after 5 years.
I have sailed as mate or crew aboard 4 different charter yachts that sail out of Ushuaia to Antarctica South Georgia etc and they are all skippered by RYA Yachtmaster Ocean qualified sailors.
So go RYA as it is also YA recognised
Wayne
Hi Ambler,
So whose Coxswain & master V certificate did you have? . Shame it had an expiry clause.
regards,
allan
They all expire after 5the years.
I had a NSW Waterways coxswains issued in 1988 after I studied at Brookvale tafe over 2 weeks full time. Revalidated 5 years later as I had relevant sea time. Unable to revalidate 5 years later as I had left the job. I signed up in Tasmania in 1998 and completed and passed the Master V at AMC then also found that since I had no commercial sea time in the last 5 years, I wasnt allowed to do the orals and gain my ticket. Another guy I did the course with got his ticket, he was the barman on a cruise boat in Hobart. Never even helped tie the boat up. The Australian commercial tickets are a joke!
Those commercial ticket requires a certain number of hours of commercial sea time each 5 years and attend the elements of shipboard safety course as well as a medical every 5 years to revalidate.
Things may have changed now but that is how it was.
They don't need me and those tickets dont meet my needs either.
Wayne
An RYA/AYF/QYA Offshore Yacht Master's Certificate is a valuable one to have as Ambler says it does not need to be revalidated every 5 years so I believe.
However I do believe it needs a current senior first aid certificate to keep it valid.
@ Ambler
" The Australian commercial tickets are a joke! Those commercial ticket requires a certain number of hours of commercial sea time each 5 years and attend the elements of shipboard safety course as well as a medical every 5 years to revalidate"
Guessing you have/had state issued tickets from what you have written.
All the state tickets should have by now been taken over by AMSA if not they are in the process. Then we may get some consistency in the industry as the states could NEVER agree (my comment about us never become a nation, all too wrapt up being individual states)
As for your comment about commercial tickets being a joke, strange when an Aussie issued qual is accepted worldwide, ohhh that would be AMSA issued NOT state.
Worthwhile remembering that the RYA quals are not recognized by AMSA at present.
Guess becomes horses for courses, me I cant work without my quals. % yearly renewals, annual medicals but the elements of shipboard safety, just now have to be done because of changes to STCW req's.
Mmmm,
I've got a coxswains ticket and haven't done any commercial work for over 10 years now, but I tell them what they want to hear.....
IE Do you have any current sea time, always have heaps [I have over 12 months full time cruising in the last 5 years alone]
and explain there are no employment opportunities where you live, which for me at Laurieton NSW is correct.
Recently renewed to an AMSA cert without any problems. 
That sounds like good news regarding AMSA taking over responsability. I will look into it when I get back to Tassie.
NZ is currently going through a qualification and licence system for charter and fishing vessels, its a bit of a mess over here. There is still no licence required to drive a private launch or yacht of any size. Nor is there any requirements to register any vessel including jet skis. The harbour masters employed by local councils are tasked with jurisdiction of their waterways and mooring allocation.
Thanks for the updated info team
