It's a mark 2 with the tall double spreader rig. Pretty basic interior and a 2gm20 Yanmar.
Rigging needs to be replaced ( original rod rigging! )
Do you think it's too much for a boat that needs work?
I'd appreciate any feedback from anybody that knows a bit about them.
Interior is not that expensive part if it sound some cleaning,carpet and paint perhaps.
Re -Rigging can cost up to $5,000 depending what needs to be done.
Sails? $6,000
Anti-foul and slipping? $2,000
Electronics? $500 to $2,000
Total $15,000
+. $37,000
Total $52,000
Now check out the boats for $50,000 and see if it compares.
Great boats with an impeccable pedigree. No doubt you will get response from those who have or have had one of these. The price seems right.....it's a lot of boat for that amount, but the devil is always in the details, sails, electronics, hull integrity etc etc all of which you can have checked out.
It certainly is a buyers market at present and reminds me of something someone far wiser than I told me. " the happiest days in a boat owners lives are the day he buys it and the day he sells it".
good luck with it
Great boats but there are heaps of them in WA for sale at the moment.
Good news is if it's on at 37K you'll get it for 30K - give or take.
At 37 it doesn't sound like a bargain if there is a lot to do.
But it's not excessive either given the quality of these boats.
Don't buy through a dealers and you'll save 10-15% straightaway.
Go to the yacht club notice boards if you want to bypass the dealers.
Everyone allows a minimum of 10% on top of that for bargaining.
Therefore boatsonline and basic haggling will get you 20% without trying.
As someone who has spent way more than I should have on my S&S
I would say if you love it go for it, everything's fixable !!!!
But if it doesn't knock your socks off , hold off and check out a few more until you are
able get guide as to what represents good value.
It's not a rare boat - so if you miss this one they'll be another.
Just another thought on the stuff that needs fixing up, check all the halyards, clutches and ropes.
If it has old wire to rope halyards when the time comes to replace them with spectra (why wait really!) you will probably need new masthead sheaves and new clutches as well as new rope.
Re-roping an S&S 34 could easily run into $2000+ so just be aware.
Checking Boat Point, Yacht Hub and Yachtdomain there doesn't seem to be that many of them for sale.
You might want to check out this MKI S&S 34. It is built with epoxy not polyester resin.
Buy it for $18,000 and spend the same amount on it, you could end up with one of the best and most valuable S&S 34s in the country.
Disclaimer:- I am very closely associated with the vendor of this yacht.
http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-34/116052
Failing that this Peterson 40 is worth a look too. It is only just across the bight from you. Bargain of the year in my humble opinion.
www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=10457348
Oh yes you could turn either of them boats into this if you have the time,money and blood sweat and beers! Haha
Hi. Send me a message and we can talk. I own Morning Bird, the last of the Swarbrick built boats. I bought her after 5 years of isolation sitting on a mooring and in quite dilapidated condition. I now have her ready for serious offshore cruising.
Cheers John
Unfortunately the negotiating has been done so $37k was bottom dollar. At $30k I don't think I would hesitate. I think sun seeker hit the nail on the head. It's not quite knocking my socks off.
To bring her up to standard could be quite expensive. Things like masthead sheaves I hadn't even thought of.
I appreciate all your comments and experience
