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to beach or not to beach. this is the question :)

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Created by ives > 9 months ago, 11 Mar 2016
ives
33 posts
11 Mar 2016 10:48PM
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i have noticed that the places that hire catamarans out all leave their catamarans beached on the shore overnight permanently. Is this something only a business can do or can anyone leave their cats beached instead of having to trailer them everyday. If so is this only for the river or beaches as well. sure would be nice to leave my cat on the beach and not have to go through the process of packing up and travailing it everyday. anybody out there know the legal side of things here.

slammin
QLD, 998 posts
12 Mar 2016 8:13AM
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My concern isn't the legality but that same a hole doesn't kick a hole through the hull or something else. Happened to my brother. Some stupid people out there. It won't happen until you aren't expecting it.

Alloy hull maybe you would be ok.! Lol



ives
33 posts
12 Mar 2016 8:23AM
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hi slammin. i had considered what you wrote but as mine is not an expensive cat but just something to learn on in the mean time i thought it would b e worth the risk. i just need to know if i am allowed to do it because i cant afford to get some huge fine or have the cat taken away on me.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
12 Mar 2016 11:46AM
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In the long run it's probably cheaper to tow it home every time, not having to worry about some over zealous council ranger or people helping themselves to bits of your boat. If it aint there, they can't steal from you.

ives
33 posts
12 Mar 2016 11:47AM
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i think maybe i have not clarified my question correctly. i accept all risk of theft or damage to cat. what i wish to know is am i allowed to leave my cat on the beach from a legal standpoint as the hire company's do with there fleets of cats or is there a fee or permit of some kind that they pay or have. if anyone knows the law regarding this and could pass it on to me i would greatly appreciated it. thx

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
12 Mar 2016 12:20PM
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It appears it depends on which council. Leaving a cat on the beach would probably be the same as for dinghies.

www.communitynews.com.au/melville-times/news/dinghy-ban-makes-waves/

au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/8698795/river-dinghies-banned-from-shore/

ives
33 posts
12 Mar 2016 1:10PM
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thanks for the links free radical. both disappointing and unfair but i guess it is what it is.

simmrr
WA, 194 posts
12 Mar 2016 2:14PM
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Hi ives,

Can't spring for a membership at all? There's a couple of clubs where cats are welcome. That way you can store it at the river/beach, depending on club, with all the gear up.

Clubs for cats so far I've been able to find are

Nedlands
Shelley
Jervoise Bay
Mandurah

As far as the newspaper articles go it's a little overzealous to ban dinghies and such. It would be far better to install racks etc and work with dinghy owners to mitigate any damage.

I would agree that powerboat wakes and storms would do far more damage. I did see a photo (not sure where) of the river side of some time ago and there was 50+ black swans in the frame. Quite thought provoking. We have only known the riverside drive as we have seen it, as a transport route with tarmac and a limestone seawall however at one time it would have been the nesting area for the swans. I can't remember ever seeing more than a few swans together at one time so perhaps it is a good thing to restore what has obviously been destroyed quietly through time.

ives
33 posts
12 Mar 2016 2:24PM
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thx for the post simmrr . very enlightening . i will look into membership when i get financial again.

sunycoastguy
QLD, 224 posts
12 Mar 2016 8:09PM
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Hi ives does any body leave there dingy there? If so you should be right to leave a cat, I bought a cheap dinted tinny and leave it in mooloolaba river with about halve a dozen other dingies all chained up to trees, easy just to carry motor down, So far so good.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
13 Mar 2016 1:28AM
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One would think, one who is seeking advice would mark his adobe on his profile!




ives
33 posts
13 Mar 2016 12:09PM
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never underestimate ignorance sirgallivant. i have no idea what mark my adobe on my profile means. i am not a tech savy person

ives
33 posts
13 Mar 2016 2:58PM
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lmao now i get it sirgalivant. you mean my abode as in where i live which is perth. (swan river). in your message you wrote adobe instead of abode and i was wondering what the connection was with my profile and adobe.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
13 Mar 2016 7:14PM
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ives said..
lmao now i get it sirgalivant. you mean my abode as in where i live which is perth. (swan river). in your message you wrote adobe instead of abode and i was wondering what the connection was with my profile and adobe.


Nah, what he was really sayin is that ya name is mud.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
13 Mar 2016 7:55PM
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Ok, l mis-spelled abode, not to confuse you, though.
The fact is, l could write about parking on the beach in Sydney, where l live and it would not help you at all.





Maxbicyclemax
WA, 38 posts
13 Mar 2016 7:48PM
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All tender/dinghies had to be removed from all areas of the river about a year ago. Now there are 15 minute only parking bays dotted along the river for people to drop there dinghies to get out to there swing moorings.
Fines and removal are now the rules.
That said, I know one place people are getting away with it. Though I don't think it's a good idea. And surely they will crack down one day.
End of Johnson rd, Mosman park
Good luck, I wouldn't do it

Microbe
WA, 180 posts
15 Mar 2016 4:52PM
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I can agree with councils trying to control and contain the dinghys, rather than letting them get out of hand and spread out all across the foreshore. Have seen some trees damaged where dinghys were chained on to them.

Nedlands council approached Nedlands YC and asked if they could install dinghy racks against our fence for use by the mooring holders. Good idea, but I'm not sure that went ahead though.

Councils might be inclined to overlook a few dinghys stored discretely in a corner of the foreshore that isn't widely used (as in Freshy Bay). But a fully rigged cat on the beach might raise some eyebrows. Pretty sure you'd find your boat gets removed fairly quickly if you did that.

If you get a chance have a read of a book called 'Messing about in Ernest' - a guy goes on a long dinghy cruise of the whole Swan and Canning river and has some run ins with the council when he leaves his boat in the park overnight.



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