I broke my boom a couple of days ago, wasn't doing anything extreme just hooked in and it went snap. It was 5 months old.
The guy in the shop who is helping me with the warranty claim said that I should rinse the inside with fresh water, as well as making sure that the twist lock pins weren't engaged when the boom is left for a while. When you have a look at the inside of the aluminium tube, it is starting to pit and corrode. He said that the stainless in the clip pin would react with the aluminium tube (dissimilar metals).
Who rinses their boom after every session? Do you leave the clips in or out?
My boom got a good rinse at Margies on Saturday![]()
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Other than that, I only rinse when there is sand/salt starting to build in the moving bits... My boom is not made from aluminium though...
I always rinse out my booms if a tap is available. If there is no tap I rinse it at home.
I have an older Neil Pryde aluminium boom. I had to wash and spray it with WD40 or it would seize up. Its around 10 years old and still okay.
Its been superseded by a Neil Pryde carbom boom and it doesn't seize up like the older boom but its such a nice boom that I rinse it too.
Hey Nebbs,
I do wash my boom every time, well 90% of the time anyway, I have heard through the grapevine that if you use white vinegar it removes the corrosion on the aluminium, possibly will prolong the life of the aulminium.
Will be interesting to hear from some of the guys if they have heard about this.
Did you do any other damage? I hope not!
Cheers GT![]()
For the price of ally booms nowdays i just replace them every season or when they break
no need to rinse![]()
Also to rinse a boom properly you would have to dismantle it completely after every sail.... and i mean every nut screw and pop-rivet.... Waste of good drinking time if you ask this black duck![]()
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I dont think removing the corrosion will prolong the life of the boom, in fact it will do the opposite.
Aluminium develops a layer of oxidised alum when exposed to the atmosphere. This provides a natural barrier to further corrosion.
The presence of chlorine can make the desptructive process happen more vigourously then the protective barrier can withstand, hence aluminium exposed to saltwater crumbling after prolonged exposure.
If you remove the oxidation (pitting etc) you actually expose pristine surface area to the atmosphere and accelerate the porcess of corrosion further.
JB
No other damage thank goodness. I was even able to plane home, holding both bits of the boom, now that's a weird feeling ![]()
Jaybee I've heard the same thing about aluminium and the oxidised layer, I think aluminium is a really reactive metal and they use aluminium powder in some explosives?
The strangest part of the whole thing was that it broke on the clamp side of the bung... so really I don't think that rinsing it would do any good because the fresh water wouldn't be able to get in there!
Meh I shouldn't complain, all's well that ends well ![]()
I guess you could just put it down to the fact that you are sailing heaps more now that you are on the right side of the country (well the left side if you are looking at an atlas![]()
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all that extra wear and tear ![]()
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For what it's worth this is the advice from NP:
To give your booms and extensions a long life:
1. Take care to keep your booms & extensions out of the sun when not in use.
2. All sliding components must be free of sand & grit. Be sure to rinse out your boom in fresh water to prevent the build-up of dirt. This will also prolong the life of your aluminium booms which can be subject to corrosion over time.
3. Do not leave boom clips open when not in use.
4. Do not leave your extension inside your mast when not in use as it may corrode.
Nebs,
What they are telling you is all true.
Having said that I never wash my booms unless they are starting to jamb up with salt and never leave the clips undone.
Hydro Slimline Booms do need to be flushed occasionally as they have tigthter tolerances between the Arm & Extension tubes due to slightly thicker Arm material.
A lot of brands are made from the wrong alloy aluminium and therefore corrode more or are too hard making them brittle.
It's a compromise to get Stiffness, Strength and Corrosion Resistance in one Alloy, one or more of those requirements has to be sacrificed.
Then there's Price, you don't get the best for less, a fact of life.
If your over 80kg or want longer life get a 32mm diameter Alloy Boom or a Carbon
You will still see 32mm booms around that are years old, the additional 3 or 4mm in diameter makes a huge difference!
Funny you should say about your boom breaking after 5 months nebbs.
I broke my 5 month old (un-named) boom a few weeks ago and that was a warranty replacement (un-named) boom. I didn't even bother taking it back to the shop. I went out and bought a chinook boom
as i don't want or will ever buy another (un-named) boom again.
Why dont you name the boom brand Stribo ? See if others have done the same thing to the same brand. I dont see a problem with naming brands on the Forum, whatever the brand is. Was it a Kommon brAnd ?
Ummm No Problems.... with that Kommon brAnd.... Nuthin Personal...and i don't like to Nit Pick... about things...[}:)]
Don't worry nebbian, I just bought my 3rd boom for this season.
1st was trashed as I got smashed on Buckets at Geeries, 2nd one was trashed as I accidently hooked in doing a Vulcan (ouch).
Preventative maintenance is the way to go, if you have any doubts about your equipment it is a sure sign that it is near breaking point so if in doubt buy new or practise doing hooked in Vulcans.
jsut spend a bit more money and get a quality boom.. pryde make good booms i reckon.. not x3s though they suck the balls of dogs.. but x6 and x9.
and then there is the problem of loading up the plastic? clamp end when you're over 80 kgs.
I remember the minor crash when I heard a strange creak from my rig only to notice my harness had popped a strap. I sailed happily for another 3 or 4 sessions after ( one of which was out at Lanos on 1/2+ mast day @ 25+ knots ) thinking the harness was the problem.
I then had the pleasure of sailing along minding my own business only to find myself parting company with all but the half of the boom (1 season old) I was holding.
It seems that the "creaking" sound I heard was a crack developing in the clamp end when I ended up putting all my weight on the boom. It took a while to break.
I guess that your gunna struggle to pick up most problems before they develop so maybe change your boom regularly or develop a good swimming technique....![]()
Nebs, it aint corrosion (too soon), it's fatigue mate.
Lose some K's, use smaller sails or get a carbon boom ![]()
I was breaking booms too often (no wave sailing), so went carbon, feels heaps stiffer and handles the gusts better. Cost more than I could afford, but has paid for it's self now. ![]()
Oh yeh, don't forget you can turn the boom over to get back in, if you have too. ![]()
Firie's on the money
Amazed at how many people you see trying to swim their gear in or asking for a tow after breaking a boom !
As long as you can get out of the impact zone it's a relatively straight forward process... or maybe it's all the practice I got doing it when I first started sailing as a result of having no coin and re-building broken booms !
I've helped a few people re-rig in the water and even let them sail my gear in while I re-rig and sail their's in... the only problem is trying to get your gear back from them (Yes Mad Dog I am referring to you !)
Nebs my two cents is go carbon... you wont look back (except in a back loop)
Countless number of alloy booms broken... just 1 carbon boom break in the last 5 years
Kev
WindWarrior Australia
' See things from a different angle'
If you crash often or are reasonably hard on your gear (throw it on ground etc) do not by carbon. Carbon is 4-5 times the price of alloy so factor that you can have a new alloy boom every year for 5 years to that 1 carbon. Carbon has the added problem that if it breaks it is often catastrophic failure where both ends explode and its impossible to sail back (which happened to me 3 weeks ago). I can't rely on carbon in that one decent catapult means an expensive trip to the shop for another boom.
That said carbon lasts many more stress cycles than alloy, it can also be stressed further without breaking. There is the obvious weight and stiffness advantage, however modern alloy booms are better shaped and are almost as stiff as carbon- i've had a few carbon booms and they are mostly let down by extension clips and heads which can make them alot worse than a well thought out alloy boom. Carbon booms are alot better at feeling at one with the rig though, alloys just feel different.
On boom care.
I never was booms unless they get too much sand/mud on them. Apart from crash breakages the main failures i've seen are from:
Construction- On bolt on arm booms often the tube in the head is cut too short and ends on a critical load section of the boom.
Materials- The above head tubes are often made from thin stainless so over time incompatible metal/metal reaction occurs. On lesser extent this happens around bolts but is mainly cosmetic. *I have never seen a boom fail at the rear clips*
Plugs- Old booms most often fail at the plugs for the head bolts (pretty much unavoidable) or sealing plugs inside the boom. The salt tends to sit around the plastic or may be forced behind the plug by hosing out the boom. Similar corrosion affects where seen very fast in bolted floor factory carpeted alloy boats where the carpet sat up against the metal.
If you buy alloy, just retire it every 18months that way you dont have to worry. If you rinse it with warm water and spray some oil of something in it you then have a spare in the event that one breaks on a weekend.
Personally now I use Prolimit Hybrid, best of both worlds
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Bjorn Dunkerbeck once said, "if you're not breaking 3 booms a season, you're not trying hard enough"
reading this is making me think I really should be taking better care of my gear.
But it hasn't let go yet. I have a HPL wave boom that I never wash or look after at all and is still working well. It got a good wash at Currumbin last week...that'll do.
Now I have said that it will prolly break tomorrow, oh well good excuse for a new one. But at $250 or so for an alloy and $900+ for a carbon they would want to be a hell of a lot better to get the nod. Somehow I don't think I will be talking the wife into that one.
We're all doing different things with our gear. But for me, I sail in rough open water chasing speed (try) etc, my booms cop hell with me hanging off it in rough water, work hardens and break near the head between 6 & 10 months every time, a few diff brands. My carbon boom is over 2 years old now, so I have more than broken even, still fells like new ![]()
But horses for courses, works for me ![]()
I havnt broken any masts or booms yet however have put holes in boards and sails.
I wash my gear after every sail though. Boards, booms, masts and sails. Even Uni joints, base plates fins and all screws (vent plugs, fin screws etc.) if i been in salt water. Hang the sails up in the rafters for a couple days, leave boards out for a couple days out of the bag for the footstraps to dry and usually drain the booms for 3 or 4 days. Have to get all the grit out of masts and booms especially because otherwise booms become hard to slide and masts are hard to pull apart at the end of a session.
Bit different i know but it's what dad and i have done with all the gear ever since i started. I don't sail quite as often as most of you at the moment though.
Bubs