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Created by TJB > 9 months ago, 4 Jul 2011
TJB
QLD, 19 posts
4 Jul 2011 9:02PM
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Hi There. My partner suffers from back trouble does anyone know of a down haul type of tool to help with rigging such as ratchet style. cheers tristan

joe windsurf
1482 posts
4 Jul 2011 7:20PM
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how about the new north sails mast base ??
like this: activcycles.co.uk/

dinsdale
WA, 1227 posts
4 Jul 2011 7:49PM
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Reg, at Windsurfing Perth has (or at least had) sort of similar looking ratchet mast extensions for much cheaper than 250 quid. You could contact him and ask what they were/are and can you still get one.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
4 Jul 2011 10:10PM
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You need a tool. A friend of mine made a crank for me. Its basically an iron tubular bar thats been bent in a shape like _
|_ (go ascii art, I can't get it) where you grip the bar at the top that has rope looping through it. The lower bar goes through a wooden block that goes into the mast base.

It works well.

I too suffer from back problems. I recommend looking at getting an impact vest back harness. I use a Neil Pryde one and it provides good back support. My back has never felt sore after windsurfing with it, even after sailing over 60 kms in a day.

Most windsurfing shops sell similar sorts of cranks. Windsurfing Sales sells one too. I actually bought one but then sold it to another windsurfer after one was made for me.

col5555
WA, 386 posts
4 Jul 2011 8:24PM
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Have you seen the Chinook "Rig winch" sometimes called downhaul crank. Might be another option.

TJB
QLD, 19 posts
4 Jul 2011 10:36PM
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Thanks fellas .. Very much appreciated . Will give me a few options to look at. thanks

BarryFawkes
NSW, 149 posts
4 Jul 2011 10:38PM
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If you are using a sdm with a cup base get a bit of tv aerial mast a boat winch smallest you can find . Put aerial mast up the extension loosly thread downhaul rope through pulleys sit the boat winch on aerial offseting winch to get a strait pull from the cleat mark winch position and bolt on will provide pitcures if needed . I have two of these one for a pryde and one for a chinook they are diffrent angles . They cost me $17 each and work better than any bought one

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
5 Jul 2011 12:44AM
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My stupid lower back will go haywire at the slightest hint of trouble...but I don't use a downhaul tool, I just use a seat harness and the method shown on sean o'brien's excellent website. (Link, plz, someone?)

it puts zero strain on the back; your legs do all the work. If it doesn't hurt my back, it won't hurt anybody's! Trust me!

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
5 Jul 2011 4:57AM
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col5555 said...

Have you seen the Chinook "Rig winch" sometimes called downhaul crank. Might be another option.


i lost my Chinook winch last month,they are awesome,just remember when you rig the sail not to forget to pick it up off grass!

have lost 3 of them in last few years,now i spray rollers with wd40 grease before pulling downhaul with harness hook.

use soap also to clean base helps too.



Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
5 Jul 2011 11:06AM
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I use the north powerex extension (ratchet type). I love it and it allows me to put on as much downhaul as I need but it does still put some strain on the lower back, particularly releasing the downhaul after use. Theoretically you can loosen the tension with the negative setting but this often doesn't work or is very slow.
I would recommend a downhaul winch for people with back problems, although releasing the downhaul may again be an issue.

nbr
QLD, 298 posts
5 Jul 2011 1:26PM
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I saw a RSX sailor in Melbourne using a winch made from a boat trailer winch purchased in Whitworths and it worked very well.

AUS691
QLD, 123 posts
5 Jul 2011 2:05PM
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Wet Willy said...

My stupid lower back will go haywire at the slightest hint of trouble...but I don't use a downhaul tool, I just use a seat harness and the method shown on sean o'brien's excellent website. (Link, plz, someone?)

it puts zero strain on the back; your legs do all the work. If it doesn't hurt my back, it won't hurt anybody's! Trust me!


carbonsugar.com/technique/save-your-back-rig-it-right/

WindmanV
VIC, 826 posts
6 Jul 2011 1:08PM
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Hello, TJB,

The Chinook tool can be seen here: http://www.chinooksailing.com/products/index.php?cPath=6_58

You have to specify if the tool is to be used in a mast extension using the Euro Pin (which is the silver pin at the top of the tool in the above diagram) or whether the mast extension is a Chinook-style.

Best thing about Chinook products is that most windsurf outlets have them or can get them.

Hope this helps.

FormulaNova
WA, 15109 posts
6 Jul 2011 11:55AM
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WindmanV said...

Hello, TJB,

The Chinook tool can be seen here: http://www.chinooksailing.com/products/index.php?cPath=6_58

You have to specify if the tool is to be used in a mast extension using the Euro Pin (which is the silver pin at the top of the tool in the above diagram) or whether the mast extension is a Chinook-style.

Best thing about Chinook products is that most windsurf outlets have them or can get them.

Hope this helps.


My Chinook rig winch has both the Euro pin and the 'Chinook style 2 pin base', plus I have drilled a hole/slot in it so I can use it with Neil Pryde MXT extensions. It works well.



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