This is my goal for the summer. This video looks pretty good in terms of breaking it down into chunks and avoiding getting smashed up.
Anyone who does loop, what do you think? Is this good advice, or is there an instructional I should follow?
yep, remko is-da-man!
what ever happened to remko and all those promising up'n'comers from that era?
top stuff, makes you feel like having a go at it... until I sh.. myself and abandon the idea
very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.
my best advice would be don't go into learning forwards thinking you have to hit it with max speed. you need power in the sail, but try to approach a ramp slowly it will help with getting the rotation sorted
The thing that's tripping me up is the board. How does one bring the board around too?
He makes it looks so easy in the above video at about 15 seconds in. One hand.
I can't do that.
Select to expand quoteevlPanda said..
The thing that's tripping me up is the board. How does one bring the board around too?
He makes it looks so easy in the above video at about 15 seconds in. One hand.
I can't do that.
If you don't get the fin out of the water you will fly out of the straps, in the first 3 steps it is really important that you lean right back and stay back, while'st throwing the rig to windward. This action will cause the board to fly out of the water and go sideways around and your feet will remain in the straps.
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tuck your ankles right up to your arse
Panda would be familiar enough with that 
...from Snowboarding jumps I mean. 
Hey Sputnik.
I might join you.
I tried to learn a couple years ago by initiating the loop by leaving the foot straps and kind of catapulting on purpose. Didn't get far
Select to expand quoteHaircut said..
yep, remko is-da-man!
what ever happened to remko and all those promising up'n'comers from that era?
they moved to w.a and took up kiting LOL ok i still have alot of sailing gear and get out most days but dont tell my kiting mates i go both ways
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very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.
Same here. Got really hacked off trying to find the right ramp so decided flat was the way forward. Once I'd made that move it took 20 mins to land one.
Here is another one, but I tend to agree that 4 steps by Remko, and the one above, Sam Ross, are the best two.
You may want to consult with Leo Sharp from Qld, he was throwing these around at will yesterday at the Freerace Queensland event yesterday at Lake Cootharaba on the Sunshine Coast, made them look so easy!
A great video.
I would even add a step before step 1. Standing in knee deep water with the sail upright and the mast base in the sand. The boom is positioned very high to make up for the missing mast foot. They you go trough the motion of step one but without the board under your feet. This gives you an idea of the sensation on the motion in a safe environment and you don't have to worry about dinging the board.
The idea is to rotate around so that you end up on your back, under the sail and facing as much in the forwards position as you can. From there you can move on to step 1 from this video.
My 2 cents :)
Select to expand quoteFlickySpinny said..Zed said..
very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.
Same here. Got really hacked off trying to find the right ramp so decided flat was the way forward. Once I'd made that move it took 20 mins to land one.
And a lot of people say that after you've landed a few they seem easier than gybes. 
I think the missing piece for me is leaning back somewhat and bringing my feet up, to get the board rotating too. Perhaps I've spent too much time practicing just rotating the sail. I can actually go all the way around with just the sail... er, not quite the same.
If I land a few I'm getting a tattoo. 
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If I land a few I'm getting a tattoo.
make it something meaningful and deep and prove you are an IN-DUH-VIDUAL.....perhaps the Japanese symbol for "loop" on your shoulder blade or the small of your back? 
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OK, I am fired up to get on this band wagon, I have been sailing long enough to have been doing this 10 years ago - now is the time - thanks for the hints and tips all. I am now publicly on register as saying I will be going round by the end of summer - GULP
Select to expand quoteevlPanda said..FlickySpinny said..Zed said..
very good. Sort of how I learned - doing flat water forwards, much easier psychologically than doing one off a wave.
Same here. Got really hacked off trying to find the right ramp so decided flat was the way forward. Once I'd made that move it took 20 mins to land one.
And a lot of people say that after you've landed a few they seem easier than gybes.
I think the missing piece for me is leaning back somewhat and bringing my feet up, to get the board rotating too. Perhaps I've spent too much time practicing just rotating the sail. I can actually go all the way around with just the sail... er, not quite the same.
If I land a few I'm getting a tattoo.
Psychologically it's hard, but technically it's pretty easy, easier than a gybe - all I really do is setup for the jump, slide my hand down the boom & pull and that's it! If you're struggling, try breaking the move down, it's a bit hard to describe, but I started by going into a gybe then sort of doing a chop hop and rather than landing just falling backwards pulling the rig on top of me so I landed in the water, kinda like what he does in the video. So in the end because you've started to bear off in the gybe it ends up like a half rotation and you go from there. You do a little bit of a rotation and realise it's not so bad.
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OK - how many are going to commit to a loop this summer? I am gunno get it done.
Me, but I first have to go and have the fear gland removed from my brain that makes me eyeball the crash site when I attempt a loop
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Today was the day! I managed to pull off my first forward loops! So happy!
Looks the same as doing jump turns snow skiing, keeping the front of the ski's on the snow and the backs up and flicking around. Trouble is you have a rig to contend with windsurfing.
One more from Jem Hall, this is another really good one (similar concept to Remko's 4 steps).
Select to expand quoteflanagaj said..Sputnik11 said..
OK - how many are going to commit to a loop this summer? I am gunno get it done.
Me, but I first have to go and have the fear gland removed from my brain that makes me eyeball the crash site when I attempt a loop
Turn your head towards your back hand & look at the clew as you jump.
