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How Much should this Damage cost me?

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Created by JanPaul999 > 9 months ago, 7 Mar 2012
JanPaul999
43 posts
7 Mar 2012 8:17PM
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I was renting a 2011 Starboard Flare 98 Wood... Then during a gybe I crashed and fell with my knee between the nose and the mastfoot of the board. My knee went trough the upper deck and there's now a huge ding the size of my knee there that's about 6cm deep. The board has got no structural damage apart from the huge ding of course.

Anyone have insight into what would be a fair price to pay to the surf rental place for this kind of damage?

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
7 Mar 2012 11:21PM
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Doesn't sound like an easy repair to me...

decrepit
WA, 12887 posts
7 Mar 2012 9:52PM
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You could just bog it up for a couple of bucks, but to put it back the way it was is much more complicated, one of the disadvantages of wood deck, very hard to patch it invisibly. I've never tried much too hard.

Pugwash
WA, 7733 posts
7 Mar 2012 10:01PM
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Oooops. How's your knee

Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
7 Mar 2012 11:35PM
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I put a harness hook through the tiki logo on the deck of my Starboard wood sonic during a failed gybe attempt recently. A professional repair including spray painting in a similar colour to the wood cost me $80. I repainted the Tiki logo myself.

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
8 Mar 2012 7:42AM
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it'd be more than $150 and less than $500

BenKirk
NSW, 600 posts
8 Mar 2012 9:18AM
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My first question would be, should you be able to make a dent 6cms deep with your knee?

JanPaul999
43 posts
8 Mar 2012 11:45AM
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ginger pom said...

it'd be more than $150 and less than $500

Would that be for a professional repair including graphics?

BenKirk said...

My first question would be, should you be able to make a dent 6cms deep with your knee?

6 cm is my rough estimate, I might be wrong, maybe it;s only 3, but the point is that the dent goes down to the core of the board where the foam is. But yeah I was also kind of surprised how easily my knee went trough the deck, speaking of which...

Pugwash said...

Oooops. How's your knee

It only has some small superficial skin damage, my knee was definitely the winner, fortunately.

h20
VIC, 458 posts
8 Mar 2012 3:15PM
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JanPaul999 said...

ginger pom said...

it'd be more than $150 and less than $500

Would that be for a professional repair including graphics?

BenKirk said...

My first question would be, should you be able to make a dent 6cms deep with your knee?

6 cm is my rough estimate, I might be wrong, maybe it;s only 3, but the point is that the dent goes down to the core of the board where the foam is. But yeah I was also kind of surprised how easily my knee went trough the deck, speaking of which...

Pugwash said...

Oooops. How's your knee

It only has some small superficial skin damage, my knee was definitely the winner, fortunately.


did exactly the same cost me about $250 with graphics done. Carbon fibre JP 101 FSW

JanPaul999
43 posts
8 Mar 2012 1:55PM
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h20 said...
did exactly the same cost me about $250 with graphics done. Carbon fibre JP 101 FSW


Is that a board of similar value and repair complexity? From what year was it?

Also, since you did exactly the same, do you remember what happened exactly? I can't remember because it all happened so fast. All I remember is that I was bearing off downwind going very fast and then initiating the gybe in very choppy conditions. Next thing I know I'm in the water with a big hole in the board.

Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
8 Mar 2012 2:19PM
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JanPaul999 said...

h20 said...
did exactly the same cost me about $250 with graphics done. Carbon fibre JP 101 FSW


Is that a board of similar value and repair complexity? From what year was it?

Also, since you did exactly the same, do you remember what happened exactly? I can't remember because it all happened so fast. All I remember is that I was bearing off downwind going very fast and then initiating the gybe in very choppy conditions. Next thing I know I'm in the water with a big hole in the board.




You get pulled over the front of the board by the sail, and land knee first on the board and then over the front.

WindWarrior
NSW, 1019 posts
8 Mar 2012 6:22PM
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If its a rental board... why are you repairing it ?
Are you looking to get it repaired and then take it back without them knowing or you telling ?

JanPaul999
43 posts
8 Mar 2012 4:45PM
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WindWarrior said...

If its a rental board... why are you repairing it ?

I'm not. At least, not yet...

WindWarrior said...
Are you looking to get it repaired and then take it back without them knowing or you telling ?


No of course not!? I was just trying to gauge the cost of such a repair because he had to think about it and we would discuss it today. Anyway, it's probably already settled, I'll probably just buy the board and take it home with me.

mybrosweeper
NSW, 1016 posts
8 Mar 2012 7:49PM
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Id think if they are renting a board there would be an expectation of damage during use,at some point.They would cover that in their tax depresiation and they might even insure their rental boards?? dunno

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
8 Mar 2012 8:45PM
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Re the knee damage

Are you a cyborg?

DunkO
NSW, 1150 posts
8 Mar 2012 9:09PM
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i would not buy that board!?

they better give you a good discount, with that huge hole and all.....

Ellobuddha
NSW, 625 posts
8 Mar 2012 9:22PM
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Did you have insurance as part of the hire? It should be included as "ongoing damage" as you werent negligent just unlucky - as in ran it into a sandbar/flew off the roof of your car etc.

JanPaul999
43 posts
8 Mar 2012 6:39PM
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DunkO said...

i would not buy that board!?

they better give you a good discount, with that huge hole and all.....

Which I was so polite to put in there, right?

Ellobuddha said...

Did you have insurance as part of the hire? It should be included as "ongoing damage" as you werent negligent just unlucky - as in ran it into a sandbar/flew off the roof of your car etc.

No, I didn't include the insurance option as part of my rental because I normally never break anything (I took the risk and now I'm paying for it), so I wasn't insured at the surf rental place... But I do have another kind of insurance which is for when I accidentally damage or break stuff from other people, and of course I tripped and fell on the board so maybe I could make that work...

JanPaul999
43 posts
8 Mar 2012 6:59PM
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ginger pom said...

Re the knee damage

Are you a cyborg?

Good question, maybe I am?

decrepit
WA, 12887 posts
8 Mar 2012 8:29PM
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Are you sure you didn't just fall into a poorly repaired hole somebody else made???

h20
VIC, 458 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:45AM
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JanPaul999 said...

h20 said...
did exactly the same cost me about $250 with graphics done. Carbon fibre JP 101 FSW


Is that a board of similar value and repair complexity? From what year was it?

Also, since you did exactly the same, do you remember what happened exactly? I can't remember because it all happened so fast. All I remember is that I was bearing off downwind going very fast and then initiating the gybe in very choppy conditions. Next thing I know I'm in the water with a big hole in the board.





value was about $3200 at time- only a couple of months old. My foot slipped off during an attempted backloop , one foot in strap and other knee which was bent went straight into the deck.

Mark _australia
WA, 23711 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:57PM
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ginger pom said...

Re the knee damage

Are you a cyborg?


maybe hand the board in and say "I'll be back" in a nice Arnie accent and they won't charge you



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