Hi !
How many loops do you do to tie the sail to the clew of the boom ?
I have been told that one is enough provided the cord is strong enough.
That is great because I can rig my sail faster.
Technically, I could do 4 loops. But what are the consequences? is it harder to windsurf ? Is there a greater risk of unrigging while sailing?
Thanks
i find a better method is to tie some loops from your harnes to the head and the foot of the sail and then ask a passer by to throw it into the air for you.
^^^^^ you're all mean.
As many as necessary as few as possible. probably three. that's what I do
I sail with speed sailors who use just one aspart of their adjustable system. One is absolutely fine. Two is just as good. Get a boom with the loop-looop go system. The you just keep the rope through the cleat knotted pass the loop through the boom and over the 'catcher' and pull on outhaul.....really really quick.
Sometimes I think I'm being set up 
Oh well here goes,
1 is more than strong enough.
I use 2 as I pull plenty on so I can my fit cams.
If a no cam sail just 1 would be ok.
But seriously how long does it take 
Well it seems the main issue for Ivanovich is to save time on rigging....
How about putting a hook on the outhaul and attaching it with a rubber band ??
Or maybe when de-rigging, just undo the boom head and roll the sail with the wishbone around the mast... (after removing the battens 
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For christ sake, how long can it take to rig a sail ?
And I believe Pan Boniec is not telling us the whole story. He's asked the same question 3 times already.
Yvane, you are getting these answers (the English equivalents of "Mu") because your question is loaded with wrong assumptions.
It probably takes 2 second longer to add another loop, so the time spent writing your question is likely longer than a lifetime of rigging with an additional loop. Besides, this would only apply to really archaic equipment, because modern booms let you pull a loop through the clew, hook it on the boom, and tighten the line through the boom cleat - a 5 second operation.
Since the other question you asked is about the size of the windsurfing market, I'll assume, until proven otherwise, that you've reinvented the boom end and are gauging the usefulness of a potential product.
Good evening, D1,
Glad that you, too, have suspicions about this fellow. His questions about speed of rigging (why didn't somebody tell him to use a loop/loop/go system?), and rope tensions (who cares? Just use 4mm Marlow rope like the rest of the windsurfing world) and number of loops in the outhaul rope seem out of whack, given the windsurf magazines, learner DVD's and learner videos that are available to help, as well as the windsurf/marine shops in the UAE where he can ask for help. I particularly found his “outhaul loop speed” question suspect, given that, if he gets caught at one set of traffic lights on his way to the beach, or he's got to hunt for a parking space, he's lost all his advantage using the advice here.
You may think I'm being too harsh, but he's asking exactly the same questions on the iWindsurf forum.
Hey, Yvan, tell us what boards, sails, masts and booms you've got and what level of sailing you're at 'cos at this stage I think you're just trolling. Is your English name Bruce??
Am I being too harsh again? Google “Windsurf UAE” and check the hits where he can ask for local advice. Also, check the profile he provided.
I'm willing to eat humble pie if I'm wrong, but in the meantime, suggest others back off on their advice until this guy proves his bona fides and perhaps others could follow his ISP links to (wherever) and advise.
Humble pie in oven; only has to be removed for consumption.
Rant over.
Can't be too hard on him, When first starting I couldn't learn enough quick enough.
Personally I don't do any loops or half hitches, when rigging gust let it hang and it wraps itself around the boom. I'm often stopping to fine tune the outhaul and easier at sea if it's not tied, doesn't come undone unintentionally.
Ah, see now, through the eyelet twice so it's 2 for me.
Thanks everyone one.
I have google the term loop/loop/go system but could not find any pics so I still have difficulty understanding this particular design which was also mentionned by another person.
I took a friend with me to the beach (I don't always feel safe going alone on an unsupervised beach). He has never windsurfed, but after discussing it, he told that the problem with the sport is that if I need to drive 30 minutes, then another 15 minutes to bring everything on the beach and rig my sail, that must put off many people (on that day the wind was so strong I could only windsurf 30 minutes). That is how everything started.
D1 you are great. You understood I am developing a new clew system.
The Dubai boat show last week was great. I was able to discuss some of my innovations.
Please refrain from making negative comments: I had the same negative comments regarding the windsurfing market study on an academic website where they say that I was an adjunct teaching in flip flops in a California community college. The windsurfing market is interesting: it is under-researched; 98 % of academic publications revolved around successful business ventures. In contrast, the windsurf industry experienced a major slump. It is interesting to have a discussion on failure rather than success. And students are more likely to relate to sports that electric oven.
Innovation does not come from people who have been in the same field for 20 years. it comes from people who have been in a different field and bring that experience from that field into a new field.
30 min drive? ...... I should be so lucky! The last time I went to the coast had to drive for two hours, and after rigging up had to walk a km with board and rig through 6 inches of water until it was deep enough to sail! But had friggin awesome day and I would do it every week I could.
Although that said , I know what you mean, I had intended to hike up Everest in christmas holidays but when I found out it would be more than 40 mins in the car before I could even have go I decided not to bother.
yvan
forget inventing new clew systems. You have to pass the rope through the clew hole twice.
If that takes too long for you, go see a psychologist
Nice website Yvan. Good luck getting people to pay for that crap you've put together.
Is your brother an African prince by any chance?
