Hi everyone. I've been practicing on Sunday in Sandringham and glad to say that with tacks geting some balance and rythm. As for the gybes.....constant feel of loosing balance with overpowering pull, especially with back hand even further back and somehow less stable stance. Is there any way to spill an exess of wind to something more manageble ? (was trying to spill from the front of sail, hardly)
P.S. Was watching "Beginner to Winner", apparently it's esier said than done.
yeah - it 'feathers' the 'blade'
don't oversheet too much though - or you'll wear the sail and end up ninja'd
is that why one should 'lay it down' towards the water when oversheeting - to stop the sail gybing into the body?
So, if I am right, oversheeting is the way to reduce the power ??? and sail forward to pivot the board faster ???
Or...pulling with back and pushing with front hand leans sail downwind letting wind out over the top ???
I'm no expert but i try and rock the rig back and oppose the rig by leaning forward(try looking round the front of the mast). extend the front arm at the same time.
This will aid in sheeting the sail in. If you are getting pulled off balance you may not be opposing the rig enough.
Go to Guy Cribbs site he explains it really well
Hi Dioma,
It sounds like you're not going fast enough! A good planing gybe takes loads of commitment, you need to sail really well powered up. When you turn downwind the sail will go very light, because you're going the same speed as the wind. To get there, I sort of leave my back hand in position, and push the front hand to the inside of the turn. This oversheets the sail, and leans the mast to the middle of the turn at the same time.
Gybing is something that takes lots and lots and lots of time, patience, and practice, but when you nail that first planing gybe... it's the best feeling in the world ![]()
And remember, all the good gybers have one thing in common: they kept trying!
I'm getting on top of things at last, after years of struggle, but I'm far from good...just keep reading, watching, practicing...
Hi, Dioma,
1. Gybing is something we always practice, but will never master.
2. If possible, watch Warwick Lee from RPS who, IMHO, is the best gyber in Melbourne.
3. Recommend that you buy the 2-hour video "Guy Cribb's Intuition Gybing" video. The first gybe shown is breathtaking (and it's in slow motion, so you can see what's happening).
Hope this helps,
WindmanV
It’s like a proper lesson on an applied physics of windsurfing. So, if I am not mistaken (again):
1.Sail sheeted, forward and across – redirects pull into the mast base (out of hands), plus enables the board to pivot in down wind direction.
2. More the board in down wind direction , less lateral resistance = less feeling of pull = need for speed.
And if I am mistaken it's going to be wet and cold ![]()
There are some good videos on youtube which are free, saves forking out $50 for a DVD.
Guy Cribb has some good ideas like the boom shaka, and also tips regarding memorising foot placements and practicing on land, this helps you by not needing to to look at your feet placement but look where you want to go, and as Nebbian mentioned speed- takes alot of the pull out of the sail.
Flat water helps.
dioma: Hi dioma I am learning from beginner to winner as well. I am at the carve gybing section (however, I haven't been out for a few weeks now, compared to a few times a week during the summer). I am going well, but this is going to take a few months to crack.. however, I think gybes are heaps easier than tacking, especailly in swell.
mabbott: I disagree with wasting $50 on a DVD. The good thing about this DVD is you get continuity. If you learn a bit from Guy Gribb, a bit from youtube, the guy down the beach, the guy that sold you your rigg, and then smash those tips together, it probably won't work. That's generally what I have found anyway in my one season of windsurfing.
Ja ![]()
Watched 'Beginner to Winner' again. Sail forward and inside the turn drags the board. Anyway, I am trying to visualise sequence, and when it comes to real thing, just follow it step by step.
Thanks everyone.
Hi dioma,
I was down in Sandy Harbour today as well, (about 11:00am) Good to see there are other beginners still getting out there. Hope to go through winter, but time will tell. Might have to invest in a 3/4 wettie.
I am having the same problem as you so I'm glad you asked. (Also using 'Beginner to Winner'. I keep replaying it in slow mo and jotting down notes. Forget most of it as soon as I hit the water though.)
I'm still struggling with the tacking once out into the lumpier water. You're one up on me.
Yeah I found the Guy Cribb DVD a good investment. It taught me to do it right so I don't get into any bad habits which may effect other skills later. One great tip he had was to practice the steps of a gybe in non-planing conditions, the steps are the same with the exception of the feet placement being in the centre of the board. It really helps doing the feet work, what he calls the "twist", the entrance, rig flip and exit in the right order so you do it automatically when doing a planing gybe.
If in waves or chop I always try and time the gybe so a wave gets behind me during the turn and/or exit. Really helps keep your speed up and helps to avoid going over waves or chop during the middle of it.
Good luck.
Yes re oversheeting. Sail forward does a couple of things. As far as the sail is concerned it gets depowered and balanced over the mast foot so it goes very light and manageable. At the same time it gets your weight forward to trim the board so it carves smoothly through a fast wide arc. You have to get your weight forward to compensate for the absence of mast foot pressure, particularly if you are going for a classic carve gybe.
Thanks Windstasy for this part. Today was specifically watching central or neutral position of mast, just in general. I understand that right mast position is the lightest for the front hand. So eventually I was going by this feeling.
Yes re oversheeting. Sail forward does a couple of things. As far as the sail is concerned it gets depowered and balanced over the mast foot so it goes very light and manageable. At the same time it gets your weight forward to trim the board so it carves smoothly through a fast wide arc. You have to get your weight forward to compensate for the absence of mast foot pressure, particularly if you are going for a classic carve gybe.
Thanks Windstasy for this part. Today was specifically watching central or neutral position of mast, just in general. I understand that right mast position is the lightest for the front hand. So eventually I was going by this feeling.
I'd be glad to take the credit but it was NotWal who gave you those pearls of wisdom.
Glad to hear you are making progress.
Keep trying and you'll get there.