Located on Kite Forums, and thought Windsurfers need to add a voice for this topic.
Guys and Girls, please take the time to go on line and complete this survey in relation to Beach usage in the City of Joondalup.http://www.joondalup.wa.gov.au/Govern/CommunityConsultation/DraftBeachManagementPlan.aspx
Should you elect to ignore, then windsurfers and Kite surfers may be faced with restrictions to area's we currently enjoy, particularly Pinneroo Point, unless you add "YOUR" voice to the survey![]()
Absolutely great that some activities should be singled out for what they are.
Page 33 summarises it well: kiting lies in the highly conflicting category, alongside the usual others. Windsurfing is in the medium category, prob. with respect to swimming.
I think the definition of highly conflicting activities on p. 33 should also include that those take up a lot more space - both beach and surf - to be safe to the public.
I will keep a copy of this document. Perhaps it will become useful in my neck of the woods to prevent further closures, whereby some dangerous activities are lumped with actual sports.
(BTW, me picky: the High-Intensity Zone p.20 has both bullets for high demand access and medium level access - typo?)
yes guy's and girl's... do the survey and make you voice heard with this topic if you live in the area. some good might eventually come from your feed back, and not just on the kite exclusion zone bits. not that they are that much of a prob in the area but a kite free zone in front of the surf clubs and swimming beaches is a good thing.
So did I get a red thumb for telling Joondalup City Council that many kiters are dangerous fools...... or for balancing that comment with saying that they should be included in the list of stakeholders?
How anyone can get a red thumb for stating both sides is beyond me. What part do you disagree with nameless redthumber?
This kiting thread on this topic is sooooo funny. A mixed bag of blaming visitors for the trouble, that policing themselves takes their time, "we have a right", calling the citizens 'whingers', blaming poleys, etc.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=62804
Just like kindergarden. Don't remember seeing all that infighting in any other group.
(Glad my boss is paying for my viewing time...)
Guy's, the restricted areas that kites can launch and land at Mullaloo have already been placed by way of 2 rather large yellow marker points around 50m offshore. Funny thing was while I was there having a sail (just to the north of the kiter playpen) one of the kiter lads must have noticed 2 bikini clad girlies in the water and proceeded to cut along the wave line around 80m north of the marker which put him within 10m of the scantilly clad swimmers. He almost stacked it forcing his kite to nearly hit one of the girls, they hightailled it out of the water and back to the carpark - they where probably in awe of his man-ness.....! What a tosser.
AB.....
I filled it out and gave them a link to the thread on here about how that little kid had to go to hospital after being mamed by a poledancer. and a link to the injuries thread on here to show them how dangerous windsurfing is to the general public.
You could also quote in the survey the kiting equivalent thread, that calls the council idiots, citizens are called whingers, tourists for local kiters' behaviour, and they threaten a civil rights action.
Let the council see those people for what they are.
Damn I miss jetski people.
I didnt make smartass comments about the dangerous kiteing behaviour?
Unless you mean the dropping in dig?If that does happen to you,it wouldnt be dangerous as the kiter would be downwind,would probly just annoy you.
Since the start of wave riding there have been drop in's between surfers,boogers,goat boats etc.
Any problems get sorted pretty quick in the water or on the beach without getting councils involved.
Its no secrete to council or kiters that most of windsurfers concerns are not for the general public but more for your their problem with not getting(sharing) the waves or riding to different rules to what you think are correct,which maybe,but not what the kiters you have a problem with think.Education is the thing that needs to be worked on so all agree on the un-written rules of the waves.
Just need to read the threads on this forum to see nearly all your posts are negitive to kiteing.
Just my thoughts.
So you don't think that when normal ppl on the beach complain about kiting then the councils investigate more and find lots of windsurfers complain about kiters ignoring right of way rules... that it won't affect the council's opinion of kiting?