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Planing WINDSURFING in 0 knots...really

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Created by puffin > 9 months ago, 29 May 2008
oldie
VIC, 356 posts
30 May 2008 4:46PM
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What a dismal prospect, when the wind does not blow. Here it is like a set from Bladerunner, moisture instead of fronts for weeks in a row now.
So sad to be surfing the Net when one would like some reality.
Last day out had trouble keeping ahead of a SUPper.
Depends on one's expectations, I suppose.
Queenslanders get cranky after a sessionless week.
West Australians after 3 days.
Victorians last 2 weeks before the rage sets in...

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
30 May 2008 5:51PM
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oldie said...

...
Queenslanders get cranky after a sessionless week.
West Australians after 3 days.
Victorians last 2 weeks before the rage sets in...


Sydneysiders get antsy after 6weeks.

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
30 May 2008 8:57PM
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shear tip said...

oldie said...

...
Queenslanders get cranky after a sessionless week.
West Australians after 3 days.
Victorians last 2 weeks before the rage sets in...


Sydneysiders get antsy after 6weeks.

Yeah, low expectations means your not disappointed often.

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
30 May 2008 9:00PM
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oldie said...

What a dismal prospect, when the wind does not blow. Here it is like a set from Bladerunner, moisture instead of fronts for weeks in a row now.
So sad to be surfing the Net when one would like some reality.
Last day out had trouble keeping ahead of a SUPper.
Depends on one's expectations, I suppose.
Queenslanders get cranky after a sessionless week.
West Australians after 3 days.
Victorians last 2 weeks before the rage sets in...

So the SUP guy probably ended up the happiest at the end of the day because he got a reasonable amount of exercise.

oldie
VIC, 356 posts
31 May 2008 4:06PM
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So a surfing SUP gets a better view of the oncoming sets. Without the waves he is a pitiful picture, unable to compete with canoe or surf ski or even a penguin pedaller.
No baggage possible, spends all his time maintaining balance while yawing in alternate directions.
But..
Has anybody tried paddling a wide sailboard?
$500 for a carbon paddle might save having to sit around with the kiters..

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
31 May 2008 10:28PM
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oldie said...

So a surfing SUP gets a better view of the oncoming sets. Without the waves he is a pitiful picture, unable to compete with canoe or surf ski or even a penguin pedaller.
No baggage possible, spends all his time maintaining balance while yawing in alternate directions.
But..
Has anybody tried paddling a wide sailboard?
$500 for a carbon paddle might save having to sit around with the kiters..

Slower than a kayak or canoe. Faster than a surf ski. Better all-round exercise than both...
See the SUP forum for a video of paddling a wide board.
I think about $200 for a reasonable aluminium and fibreglass paddle.

oldie
VIC, 356 posts
1 Jun 2008 11:46PM
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I will assume that the standuppers that I see creeping around are at a very early stage of developing their core strength. They can make no progress against a 3 knot current :(
They might be more impressive on a catamaran version or a raceboard with an outrigger.
My kids say it does not look cool. End of story as far as they are concerned..

WINDY MILLER
WA, 3183 posts
1 Jun 2008 10:52PM
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i disagree with your kids


Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
2 Jun 2008 10:55AM
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Me too


Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
2 Jun 2008 6:36PM
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Haha...wetsuits...I'd forgotten what they look like! Brrrrr!

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
2 Jun 2008 6:42PM
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I've been planning to get a SUP paddle but I don't want to find I can't balance on my windsurf board, coz then the money spent on the paddle would be wasted. I mean a freeride board, not a GO or something.

BTW Mistral make these cool paddles with adjustable length, designed to look like a windsurf boom (hard to explain., but when you see one you'll understand!). Nice.

jp747
1553 posts
2 Jun 2008 6:04PM
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hi wetwilly how's the wind up there in SingaporeMeng W. has requested packs for the gt31 and pronto gets me thinking it must be windy there

oldie
VIC, 356 posts
2 Jun 2008 8:30PM
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Gotta have glide, or the paddling efficiency is gone. Sounds like only a gorilla with an oversize paddle could make a GO go .
The Starboard proposal ( http://www.star-board-sup.com/2008/products/sup148.php )
is cunning, scooped out deck for balance and a rudder to let you keep paddling on your strong side. "Australian pine" is surely a plus...Is it supposed to surf like a longboard?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
2 Jun 2008 9:01PM
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Apparently these new fangled "surf boards" are going to be bigger than SUPs.



Heaps cheaper, far more maneuverable, easier to transport and store... and they don't even need a paddle!

I don't get the SUPs, and "better workout" is just marketing speak for "hard to paddle".

Gestalt
QLD, 14983 posts
2 Jun 2008 9:31PM
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someone tell this guy he is taking off in the wrong direction.....
either that or he is about to get one hell of a back door.

WINDY MILLER said...

i disagree with your kids





decrepit
WA, 12889 posts
2 Jun 2008 7:43PM
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Gestalt said...

someone tell this guy he is taking off in the wrong direction.....
either that or he is about to get one hell of a back door.




Nup looks like he took off to far out on the shoulder, so his angle looks almost perfect to me, he's just fading back into the action, to bottom turn under the lip.

Chris 249
NSW, 3589 posts
2 Jun 2008 9:48PM
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oldie said...

Gotta have glide, or the paddling efficiency is gone. Sounds like only a gorilla with an oversize paddle could make a GO go .
The Starboard proposal ( http://www.star-board-sup.com/2008/products/sup148.php )
is cunning, scooped out deck for balance and a rudder to let you keep paddling on your strong side. "Australian pine" is surely a plus...Is it supposed to surf like a longboard?


Isn't a bit weird that the same board makers who bitch about sailing longboards being too slow, will then shout about a flat water racing board that will do 6 knots flat out and with maximum effort?

Ellobuddha
NSW, 625 posts
2 Jun 2008 10:03PM
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Can someone tell me where those photos are taken???

Gestalt
QLD, 14983 posts
2 Jun 2008 10:45PM
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guess i'll stay out of the surf a little longer then.

decrepit said...

Gestalt said...

someone tell this guy he is taking off in the wrong direction.....
either that or he is about to get one hell of a back door.




Nup looks like he took off to far out on the shoulder, so his angle looks almost perfect to me, he's just fading back into the action, to bottom turn under the lip.


nobody
NSW, 437 posts
3 Jun 2008 1:29AM
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evlPanda said...

Apparently these new fangled "surf boards" are going to be bigger than SUPs.

...

Heaps cheaper, far more maneuverable, easier to transport and store... and they don't even need a paddle!

I don't get the SUPs, and "better workout" is just marketing speak for "hard to paddle".

SUPs are just another surfing tool. They shine as the ultimate wave getter. If you want to get less waves or limit yours surfing days, that's your choice.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
3 Jun 2008 12:32PM
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nobody said...

evlPanda said...

Apparently these new fangled "surf boards" are going to be bigger than SUPs.

...

Heaps cheaper, far more maneuverable, easier to transport and store... and they don't even need a paddle!

I don't get the SUPs, and "better workout" is just marketing speak for "hard to paddle".

SUPs are just another surfing tool. They shine as the ultimate wave getter. If you want to get less waves or limit yours surfing days, that's your choice.



How do you duck-dive? Just wondering how you get out on an 8ft day if there is no channel.

I'm sure they are a ball of fun, I'm just not sure how they'd replace, say, a Malibu. I've seen some footage of Laird Hamilton out on some big days and he says he really likes them on super windy days as they are a real challenge.

Also here's another way to really plane in 0 knots:



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