There is a lot of talk at the moments that Magazine reviews are biased, blah, blah, blah. So in order to dispel or confirm these myths lets see what the punters think. Your task is to rank your favourite 3 Board and Sail Brands in the various categories. You must also include your state or courntry (if not Australia) so we can also discover if there are any biases geographically.
Depending on the response, I will collate the totals and give an overall summary on the rankings.
Boards - Wave
[1]
[2]
[3]
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]
[2]
[3]
Boards - Graphics
[1]
[2]
[3]
Sails - Wave
[1]
[2]
[3]
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]
[2]
[3]
Sails - Graphics
[1]
[2]
[3]
Boards - Wave
[1] Starboard / RRD equal due to strength and quality (and customs of course)
[2] Anything else Cobra top line construction (Cobra also do pissweak on orders of the company
[100] Euro stuff liek F2 and Fanatic etc ... shapes just as good but weak
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] No idea sorry
[2]
[3]
Boards - Graphics
[1] Anything with WHITE rails so easy to repair when dinged.
[2] Anything with a white bottom so it doesn't get to 80deg on the beach!!
[3]
Sails - Wave
[1] Simmer (toughest)
[2] Severne (close, and the free bottle opener is kewl) Ezzy equal second
[3] Anything not Gaastra / North / NP
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] No idea. KA cos they're fast and Aussie I guess
[2]
[3]
Sails - Graphics
[1] All look the same, not big on graphics anyway
[2]
[3]
Nice start from Mark as usual.
Name your Three Favourite Brands not bag the crap out of stuff you have limited current knowlege about.
Rad Lad, its just too much to quantify, and I'm a lazy bastard so I'll just put up a couple of generalisations
Boards:
JP
Carbon Art (but I don't have one)
Sails:
Loft
Aerotech
Graphics:
I don't care for graphics
State - Qld
quote from Blackadder II
"Baldrick, have you been eating dung again?"![]()
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radlad .. i think your questionaire is not going to work, nearly everyone is going to answer with which ever boards they own, coz they like to think they got the best, when they should all know that custom stoneys and naish sails are the best....sheeeesh.
As all boards come from cobra
Shapers it is!
Boards - Wave
[1]Werner
[2]Keith
[3]Roberto
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]Patrik
[2]Werner
[3]Sebastion
Boards - Graphics
[1]Tabou
[2]RRD
[3]Quatro
Sails - Wave
[1]Neil Pryde
[2]Naish
[3]Ezzy
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]Neil Pryde
[2]North
[3]Gaastra
Sails - Graphics
[1]Naish
[2]Severne
[3]Hot![]()
Boards - Wave
[1] the only wave we get here is when you saying goodbye to someone
[2]
[3]
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]Tabou Manta...limited use on them but they are plug and play best boards ive ever used
[2]Fanatic Falcons...great boards as well
[3]Starboard isonics
Boards - Graphics
[1]Tabou
[2]RRD
[3]windsurfer one design
Sails - Wave
[1]don't use them
[2]
[3]
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]The Loft Blades, great sails hands down best value high performance sail on the market.
[2]North Warp F2008 nice sails but very very pricey
[3]Neil Pryde RS Racing proven designs but $3,500 for 1 complete rig??
Sails - Graphics
[1]hot sails
[2]Point 7
[3]Vandal
Boards - Wave
[1] Fanatic
[2]rrd
3) EVo
[100] anything by starboard that weighs 8kgs or more and said to be 6.7kgs (my EVo included)
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]Fanatic Freewave
[2]fanatic skate
[3] Falcon
Boards - Graphics - don't care for graphics
[1]SSD
[2]OES
[3]NOT JP - I personally feel 2009 are the worst looking boards ever
Sails - Wave
[1]Poison
[2]Blade
[3]Manic
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] Severne S2
[2]Naish Boxer - ugly but different
[3]Stealth
Sails - Graphics
[1] Severne
[2]Gaastra
[3] Naish
NOPE russh's board was mine before bought it new was always heavy, every starboard i have ever bought was heavy, so no more starboards for me , good design but heavy.
Boards - Wave
[1] The one under my feet
[2] The one in my car
[3] The one in my shed
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] The one under my feet
[2] The one in my car
[3] The one in my shed
Boards - Graphics
[1] Graphics secondary to performance
[2]
[3]
Sails - Wave
[1] The one on my mast
[2] The ones in my car
[3] The ones in my shed
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] The one on my mast
[2] The ones in my car
[3] The ones in my shed
Sails - Graphics
[1] Graphics secondary to performance
[2]
[3]
Boards - Wave
[1]
[2]
[3]
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] JP - have 4 of them. No problems with any
[2] Hybrid - Great construction. lively and fast
[3] Seatrend - gone out of business ,construction not great anyway
Boards - Graphics
[1] Exocet
[2] JP
[3]
Sails - Wave
[1]
[2]
[3]
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] Neil Pryde
[2] North
[3] Loft
Sails - Graphics
[1] Point 7
[2] Sailworks
[3] Neil Pryde
State NSW
Boards - Wave
[1] JP - Twinser
[2] Quattro
[3] Tabou
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] JP - Freestyle 99
[2] Tabou
[3] Mistral
Boards - Graphics
[1] JP
[2] Quattro
[3] Angulo
Sails - Wave
[1] NP - Combats
[2] Gaastra
[3] Ezzy
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] NP
[2] Gaastra
[3] Naish
Sails - Graphics
[1] NP - It's the brand the others copy (except North)
[2] Gaastra
[3] Naish
I don't see how this is going to "dispel or confirm the myth". But I do think that wave board reviews have got less informative. This may be because the market has got more diverse and harder to pin down or maybe the magazines have got more tight@rse and focused on keeping the advertisers happy.
If they did more descriptions of the shapes and accurate measurements there would be at least some objective yardstick. They could also include accurate descriptions of the test conditions, say who the testers are including their sponsors and current fav board.
World peace and harmony would be nice too.
Al
fill all ur spare footstrap screw holes with soapy water, place board in sun 4 a few mins, open vent, if you see bubbles, thats where the extra weight problem is, seen it on a few starboards now, inc 2 of mine
,,,, they were both fishs also hapend to one of my deltas
Think I'll just leave it in the shed and get a fanatic Allwave or a nice RRD wave cult.
Boards - Wave
Don't wave sail (yet)
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] 2006 F2 Chilli
[2] 2008 JP Freestylewave 84 (yes, I know it's a wave board but I use it for bumpnjump and FS)
[3] Fanatic Skate
Boards - Graphics
Don't care
Sails - Wave
[1] Naish Force
[2] Ezzy
[3] Pryde Zone
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
Nope
Sails - Graphics
Don't care.
In Melbourne, but recently here from the UK
Boards - Wave
[1]dont use them
[2]
[3]
Boards - Other (Slalom,speed)
[1]carbon art
[2]fanatic
[3]f2
Boards - Graphics
[1]fanatic
[2]starboard
[3]?
Sails - Wave
[1]dont use em
[2]
[3]
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1]northsails
[2]serverne
[3]?
Sails - Graphics
[1]north sails warp f2006
[2]serverne od/code red
[3]
It's funny to hear the descriptions of a board as bomb proof.
I could provide a reasonably accurate list of brands that have snapped in the last few years, and you would get quite a shock ( Yes, even RRD's
& Quattros' ![]()
). However I value my life
, and don't want to blow my cover.
Replace 'bomb proof' with 'extremely resiliant, except when riden by 12 stone gorillas who like to spend most of their time in the air'
This thread gets a three troll rating [}:)][}:)][}:)]
Not much point to this thread. Would be better to have something like what gear do you have and why?
I posted a stupid reply before how Bomboras are my favourite brand then deleted it. Its probably not as stupid as I first thought or perhaps even more stupid. Bombora is my favourite windsurfing brand, plus they made boards that are bomb proof. You could throw a Bombora board off a four story building and it would still be in one piece after the impact.
I'm no expert but I doubt board weight on the water is as important an issue most most windsurfers think it is compared to the board weight as you carry it down to the water.
I think Boards magazine ran a feature recently where they tested the same shaped boards in different construction methods and doing blind tests where it was impossible to tell which board was which, the heavier boards were preferred over the lighter boards by the testers.
Probably in lighter winds heavier constructions lose out more but once you are up and going weight would be less of an issue.
If Bombora made modern shaped board for around $700 to $800 new, I'd buy them.
Boards - Wave
[1] SSD......Stone Surfboard Designs
[2] Wave Scalple
[3] Your own hand crafted design
Boards - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] Tripple concave into v
[2] OFF SHORE Ocean racing Speed machines
[3]
Boards - Graphics
[1] TATOO Art
[2] CUSTOM (Hand job)
[3] Your own spray blow job
Sails - Wave
[1] Ezzy..... dose it
[2] Simmer Style
[3] Power Sails(Timmy Car)
Sails - Other (Freeride, Slalom, Freestyle, etc)
[1] Pryde / Gastra ............1st Rotating asymetrical foils
[2] Pryde / Gastra.............1st 3 cam sails
[3]
Sails - Graphics
[1] Stickerd up .............or spray painted .
[2] Sail No starting in S/N ..........
[3] Bar code formate is also good ...... 9 300632090686
SORRY HAD TO GO FINS
1Foot ball fin
2Canak anti cavitational fin (one put in front of the main fin ) Thier were some rippers, hand made ones.
3kANGA FIN ....they were something
4 Foil fin (Bands around the out side)
5 Best of all are Hand made ones with objects glassed into them dope leaf ,spiders etc.
I HAD a fin sent to me called the DOLE FINZ made from soft epoxy and flexed something wicked.........loved it ....till one morning after the boards was on its tail. i found it bent ![]()
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close to 45 degrees............it did come back ,the tip snapped in the end. oh well ![]()