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Reflex Films - Wizard of OZ DVD?

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Created by peto > 9 months ago, 6 Jun 2008
peto
NSW, 406 posts
6 Jun 2008 6:56PM
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Hey Matt,
When is the DVD going to be ready mate?

Reflex Films
WA, 1463 posts
7 Jun 2008 10:36PM
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Peto - Thanks for asking

Alot of my footage ended up on Boardseeker's Windsurfing annual 2008 West Australia section - not quite sure how it got on there ... as i never cleared it for someone else's commercial DVD release - so that has kind of knocked me back for unseen Aussie footage .

The good news is you can get an oz hit if you check that new dvd out.

I'll be up north filming for a good stretch come sept - oct - as well as a lot of west oz stuff this summer- so that should have my footage replenished a little more.

i'll also be shooting a few good days in west oz this winter. Probably down the big G. Had some gold outer cables footage on a big day but my helmet camera decided to have a major meltdown..

Plus my new Vid camera makes it hard for me to look at stuff from my older gear now - so i guess i'm a little more fussy on color, DOF and resolution now..

- i have been shooting in Hawaii - got some real nice footage from there - including some nice helicopter, water housing and helmet cam stuff from Hookipa - but thats more international kind of stuff.

A quick Hawaii summary -Robby Naish was gettin busy and rippin hard for a 46 year old dude.
Polakow was still a Standout - but many crew are running the same moves. So he is getting harder to spot.
- Goya is back on the programme and outripping most. Loves his wave threeos. Gets em nearly every time.

Jaeger is goin nuts - definitely a contender if there is lots of port tack wave sailing on tour this year - his starboard tack is coming on strong.

Boujmaa was the standout in the best sessions i saw at hookipa. Going higher and harder than anyone i saw. Lots of crash and burn - but amazing fearlessness. He is probably the coolest cat on tour and well liked by all - top bloke.

Single fins were ruling the break - on the extreme end - the twinnies werent laying down the big punts that the singles seemed capable of - but lots of crew sailing well on twins. bAsed on what i have witnessed- I'm Still not convinced they are the future. In fact so many crew are riding twins that the level of wave slaying at the big H- to my eyes - seems to have gone backwards from a few years ago.

The freestyle level is amazing but 99.9% of those guys just cant wave ride properly - no style, no timing , no power - which i dont get because its way easier to time a lip than pull the new school freestyle moves. Its very cool and yet very dorky. Even some of the big wave names have a pretty weak riding act -you'd be surprised! - usually compensated for with an insanely good jumping act!

You'll be able to see some of that action when Starboard release their web movies on their site mid August - definitely some sweet action in there.

ma
NSW, 375 posts
8 Jun 2008 11:55AM
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about those big names with a weak riding act, Ill never know how katchadorian got on the windsurfing movie?

Mark _australia
WA, 23737 posts
8 Jun 2008 11:36AM
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Huh? I reckon he is pretty damn good for somebody who is just a normal bloke / sailor on Maui

Agree with the comments about freestyle, I made similar comments a couple of years ago about how we are close to having a world champ who can't gybe and I was shot down in flames.

curac
WA, 1160 posts
8 Jun 2008 12:17PM
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who can't gybe? i'm pretty sure if you can freestyle you can gybe,

just not wave ride. but that's probably cause they spend all there time just sliding and spining and wot not on flat water

Reflex Films
WA, 1463 posts
8 Jun 2008 12:30PM
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The current level of Freestyle is amazing - no argument.
full respect to crew that are doing it- i do love to watch it. I had the pleasure of watching Marcilio Browne in action at sprecks - just amazing!! The backwinded leveraged moves are definitely taking windsurfing somewhere new!

Had a go of a dedicated freestyle set up with stubby fin - guess what - they dont carve gybe - at all! the boards just slide and go sideways when you try and bury the rail - as there is no fin to drive off

thats how specialised a dedicated freestyle set up is.

Got damn close to a grubby on my first go though - so they do make the spins and slides pretty easy.

Mark _australia
WA, 23737 posts
8 Jun 2008 2:28PM
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curac said...

who can't gybe? i'm pretty sure if you can freestyle you can gybe,

just not wave ride. but that's probably cause they spend all there time just sliding and spining and wot not on flat water


I never said somebody can't gybe... just that it is a possibility and it seems like it is getting closer. Reason I say that is freestyle is now such a dedicated discipline (used to be all the wavesailors doing it as an aside, now a lot of people do nothing but freestyle) that I think it won't be long before we have a world champ who has never gybed properly cos as soon as he got planing he was straight into spinny tricks.

peto
NSW, 406 posts
8 Jun 2008 11:11PM
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It sounds like you are venting a little Matt? I can understand that though, me and my mates get a little frustrated too when you wanna watch a proper wave vid and they chuck in all the tricky flicky stuff. As incredabley talented that stuff is, it does not beat watching polakow, goya, siver or kauli (and the rest in that league) gouging the face of a wave...we still think the older guys and a few of the younger ones are by far the most stylish. Most times just watching linking truns and speed on a wave is way more satisfying then watching a freestyler chucking a flaka on a wave...it would be good to see some current footage of Goya. That bloke was wipping out doubles and blowing waves apart in comps years before doubles were the norm, freaky style.

Reflex Films
WA, 1463 posts
8 Jun 2008 10:36PM
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Peto,

whats with the pic on your id?

Nah i'm not venting - i reckon freestyle is very stylish - and damn hard to do.

i just cant figure out why crew skillful enough to do that cant ride properly - probably because they learn to sail in flat water locations - not everyone can be as spoiled us west ozzies.

Haircut
QLD, 6491 posts
9 Jun 2008 1:17AM
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freestyle - loveit or hateit, it'll probably be windsurfing's saviour

peto
NSW, 406 posts
9 Jun 2008 11:37AM
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Just thought it was a funny pic so i put it there.

I dont hate freestyle i just like watching wavesailing more. its great our sport can have so many disciplines. Pure waveriding excites me more then tricky orientated wavesailing. Although I wish i could do at least one of those new school tricks. I reckon freestyle windsurfing is on par with skating for technical aspect, but is the standout when it comes to the visual aspect. Freestyle windsurfing is probably the most dynamic sport in the world.

qwerty
NSW, 807 posts
9 Jun 2008 1:14PM
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peto said...

Just thought it was a funny pic so i put it there.



Come on Peto, own up. That is you painted white, leaning against the wall. It's how you pick up chicks.

peto
NSW, 406 posts
9 Jun 2008 2:54PM
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So...everyone has a fetish, thats just mine. I won't mention what yours is qwerts...all i can say is you walk funny after you've indulged in it.

qwerty
NSW, 807 posts
9 Jun 2008 5:25PM
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peto said...

So...everyone has a fetish, thats just mine. I won't mention what yours is qwerts...all i can say is you walk funny after you've indulged in it.


It's not my fault if donkey hair gives me a painful rash.

stehsegler
WA, 3582 posts
9 Jun 2008 6:32PM
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Haircut said...

freestyle - loveit or hateit, it'll probably be windsurfing's saviour


Can only second that. The windsurf industry in it's current form is only in existence because of the European market. If it wasn't for that a lot of companies would have gone down the gurgler already.

Freestyle has brought a lot of young kids into the sport. Don't get me wrong. Waves are great fun but the majority of people simply don't have a wave pool in their neighborhood. The closes to waves you'll get in most inland places for example is the Eisbach in Munich... Plenty of inland lakes though.

Besides, just imagine how crowded that North West OZ wave spot we all like would be it more people would wave sail...

Matt,

Bummer to hear you got your footage ripped off. That's exactly the reason why you won't see professional production companies "from the real world" touch sports like ours. Just look at the amount of windsurf DVDs done by pro sailors where music is blatantly ripped of without getting the musicians prior consent or paying any licensing fees.

I wonder what those pro sailors would think if you go down to the beach, simply grab their gear and go for a sail... hey, I am not stealing. I am only promoting your brand and testing out your gear.

There are some noteworthy exceptions like the guys from Tonix in Germany. Probably the reason why they manage to land sponsors like Red Bull... Professional companies generally like to work with professionals.

Reflex Films
WA, 1463 posts
9 Jun 2008 7:45PM
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The WA section they put together on the boardseeker annual DVD was pretty entertaining - (so job done i guess) even if every second shot in WA was actually hawaii!

stehsegler
WA, 3582 posts
9 Jun 2008 8:10PM
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Reflex Films said...

The WA section they put together on the boardseeker annual DVD was pretty entertaining - (so job done i guess) even if every second shot in WA was actually hawaii!


still... the fact that they used your footage without permission and are now flogging it as part of their DVD (which btw costs 25 quid) it bulls.it.

I wonder what they would say if I'd subscribe to their web site and then sell it on as my own content... wanna bet it will take less than 24 hours before they send you a seese and desist letter.

The point I am trying to make is that with these sort of work practices it's no wonder many large out of industry sponsors don't take us serious. As I said, professionalism attracts big money and money is what this sport needs if it wants to survive... like it or not.



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