Following on from russh's thread. What does everyone do to look after their sails after sailing in salt water.
Is a fresh water rinse required, or just make sure the sail is dry. Do you hang them up when you get home?
I have just bought a new 6.3 wave sail and want to make sure it lasts as long as possible.
Washing doesn't affect the longevity one bit. If you want them to last then apart from the obvious ( ie avoiding physically mistreatment) the number one thing is to minimise the exposure to uv. You can spray them with 303 as Nebbs suggested. It has uv screening properties but it doesn't last long. I don't think they are structurally bothered by mould and mildew. The thing that makes them cloudy is micro scratching. Cloudiness has nothing to do with uv deterioration but there is a bit of correlation with cloudiness, age and exposure. Still a sail can be well and truly cloudy but still strong if has been never been left lying in the sun.
I remember reading about an ad hoc test a bloke did on different sail cloths to test their longevity on exposure to uv. He put them on a frame and left them out in the sun for months on end and gave them a daily wash. He also tested 303 while he was at it and found it worked but its effect was slight. He only gave one application though.
The test was posted on rec.windsurfing round about 2000 if you want to hunt for it.
The implication of the test was that xply was more than 2 x better than mono and mylar but dacron as I recall was the big winner.
But yeah, sail care - just keep em out of the sun and only sail at night time.
Thanks NotWal, it always amazes me the amount of information that you can get from this forum if you ask.
So basically I have been wasting my time washing down the sail after every session!!! - probably doing more damage as I then leave the sail in the sun to dry.
I suppose there is not much you can do about exposure to UV while sailing except leave the gear in the shade while having a rest/sanger/drink or as you suggest only sail at night.
I'd be more worried about rolling it up all sandy - that's a good reason for a quick rinse, but otherwise it's pretty likely that you're going to be adding creases with the rolling, unrolling and hanging up. So just go for a quick hose down while the sail is still rigged if that's an option, I wouldn't bother getting it out at home again.
I've been sailing on and off for many years. Always give mine a quick spray with fresh water and then hang under the house to dry for a day or two - out of the sun. Haven't had any problems with damaged sails, always last for years. So my recommendation regardless of what the manufacturers say, wash then dry in the shade before rolling up and storing.
Also sailed Contenders and Cats for many years before sailboarding, same story. Adding up to about 30 years!
Cheers - Greg W
After every sail i come home and hang them under the carport in the shade. Then rise them with a high pressure hose, all though mast sleve and everything, then leave them to dry in the wind over the night. Then all the other gear just sit underneath to dry because i wash all of it so theres no rusting in uni joints, fins, screws, booms, bolts etc. and just clean the boards for the sake of it i suppose.
I like to think this will get the most out of my gear and long life span if i keep it really well by cleaning. Do the same for fresh water aswell, mainly the drying so that i don't get mould on the sails and what not.
Bubs
Actually, NotWal, I agree with you. However, I recently bought a North sail with came with instructions that recommended washing and drying the sail after every session. I've also seen that since Armorall is petrol based and 303 products aren't, they are better. A Mfg. Rep from 303 states that regular applications make a difference. However, I agree that it must be rather tedius to have apply these products often. You can put in 27 three hour sessions with a sail before UV damage starts to set in. Who doesn't want a new sail after that much time on the water with one?
I'd be careful using armorall. I remember a guy used it on his new leather dash on his car from the day he bought it. The leather cracked and when he took it back to the dealer for warranty - it was refused due to the use of the armorall. From memory it was because of something to do with exposure to sun.. I know its completely different material but I'd stick to the fresh water and shade idea.