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Women B & J sailors 25kt board sizes

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Created by sboardcrazy > 9 months ago, 20 Feb 2011
sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
20 Feb 2011 2:30PM
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Ok any woman out there that sail B & J or choppy lake sailing I'm interested to know what size boards you find comfortable in these conditions ( 25kts choppy). Your weight + or - so many litres..As you could see in the go pro I was getting tossed around a bit with the 95ltre board..ok its better now with some modifications but Im now looking at getting maybe a 78l waveboard to use in 25kts +. It can be gusty and die up here so using such a small board is a bit of a worry ( although I cant uphaul the 95 in anything bar flat conditions anyway!).
I've borrowed a smaller board to see how it feels but the way the wind is here it may be a month or so before I can try it out![}:)]

Mark _australia
WA, 23717 posts
20 Feb 2011 1:00PM
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OK not a woman but I did give it an hour plus...

For hi wind B&J and chance of it dying or being gusty a FSW is the go, much earlier planing and handle straight lines better than a waveboard

For 25kn I reckon your bodyweight in litres is not too bad, experienced people and/or not gusty winds will go bodyweight minus 10L ish

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
20 Feb 2011 4:33PM
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Couldn't help yourself could you..

Mark _australia
WA, 23717 posts
20 Feb 2011 1:51PM
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sboardcrazy said...

Couldn't help yourself could you..


yeah but it was actually 90mins

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
20 Feb 2011 6:00PM
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Pretty good answer, I thought, given that the number of chicky babe sailors is fewer than 2 few things, and an answer could have been a long time coming.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
20 Feb 2011 7:28PM
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Mark _australia said...

OK not a woman but I did give it an hour plus...

For hi wind B&J and chance of it dying or being gusty a FSW is the go, much earlier planing and handle straight lines better than a waveboard



I'd agree on a FSW option around 78L. Some 78L wave boards can feel big. I have a JP FSW which I use in 20kts + and my ex was quite happy on it most conditions, she was 52kg. They plane quite early and stay on the plane well with the stock fin. Throw a smaller wave fin on and it calms the board down and keeps it on the water even in the bumpy bits.

But if you look at a JP FSW then go for 07 or later, the previous models weren't quite as smooth having thicker rails to apease the freestyle users.

barn
WA, 2960 posts
20 Feb 2011 4:58PM
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Maybe make the question less specific... lemmie try.

Any woman out there?




Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
20 Feb 2011 5:06PM
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barn said...

Maybe make the question less specific... lemmie try.

Any woman out there?







Yes !

I have a 74 L waveboard that is about 15L over my body weight. It is just floaty and stable enough to sail in 5 knots, so that volume will be quite manageable in lulls. I got it for sailing in 25 knots plus but there has been very little of that since I bought it! It is an ideal size for 20 - 25 knots, however, for a consistent 25 knots plus I would go smaller - 60L?

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
20 Feb 2011 8:16PM
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Windxtasy said...

barn said...

Maybe make the question less specific... lemmie try.

Any woman out there?





Yes !

I have a 74 L waveboard that is about 15L over my body weight. It is just floaty and stable enough to sail in 5 knots, so that volume will be quite manageable in lulls. I got it for sailing in 25 knots plus but there has been very little of that since I bought it! It is an ideal size for 20 - 25 knots, however, for a consistent 25 knots plus I would go smaller - 60L?

So how do you find it to gybe? The one I have is a waveboard not FSW.. so you are happy with the waveboard? Bummer that the wind hasn't obliged.
Thank you a woman!! For you other ladies out there who may not want to show your face on seabreeze..you can always PM me..Be good to get more womans views on things! ( I do appreciate all the help you guys give me though).

Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
20 Feb 2011 6:53PM
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sboardcrazy said...

Windxtasy said...

barn said...

Maybe make the question less specific... lemmie try.

Any woman out there?





Yes !

I have a 74 L waveboard that is about 15L over my body weight. It is just floaty and stable enough to sail in 5 knots, so that volume will be quite manageable in lulls. I got it for sailing in 25 knots plus but there has been very little of that since I bought it! It is an ideal size for 20 - 25 knots, however, for a consistent 25 knots plus I would go smaller - 60L?

So how do you find it to gybe? The one I have is a waveboard not FSW.. so you are happy with the waveboard? Bummer that the wind hasn't obliged.
Thank you a woman!! For you other ladies out there who may not want to show your face on seabreeze..you can always PM me..Be good to get more womans views on things! ( I do appreciate all the help you guys give me though).


I tried out FSW and waveboards and slalom boards and found I liked waveboards and slalom boards but I didn't find a single FSW that I felt comfortable on, despite the fact that one FSW would probably do the job of a waveboard and a slalom.
Gybe? It turns beautifully of course. I don't. But that's me, not the board.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
21 Feb 2011 8:34AM
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Windxtasy said...

sboardcrazy said...

Windxtasy said...

barn said...

Maybe make the question less specific... lemmie try.

Any woman out there?





Yes !

I have a 74 L waveboard that is about 15L over my body weight. It is just floaty and stable enough to sail in 5 knots, so that volume will be quite manageable in lulls. I got it for sailing in 25 knots plus but there has been very little of that since I bought it! It is an ideal size for 20 - 25 knots, however, for a consistent 25 knots plus I would go smaller - 60L?

So how do you find it to gybe? The one I have is a waveboard not FSW.. so you are happy with the waveboard? Bummer that the wind hasn't obliged.
Thank you a woman!! For you other ladies out there who may not want to show your face on seabreeze..you can always PM me..Be good to get more womans views on things! ( I do appreciate all the help you guys give me though).


I tried out FSW and waveboards and slalom boards and found I liked waveboards and slalom boards but I didn't find a single FSW that I felt comfortable on, despite the fact that one FSW would probably do the job of a waveboard and a slalom.
Gybe? It turns beautifully of course. I don't. But that's me, not the board.


Its a bugger that isn't it? Pity we can't predial our own specs..can gybe beautifully , sail all day, do 6 ' jumps and loops, shred waves..

Dezza
NSW, 956 posts
21 Feb 2011 1:21PM
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Hi Sboard, I have both a FSW 78l and a wave 68l and love riding them both, use them both a lot. The wave board is better for windy windy windy days as smaller board is more controllable, but the FSW 78l is also great in lots of chop and my preferred board for inland water, or for on the ocean when the wind is more likely to be gusty, and I can keep planing in the lulls. My 78l is actually lighter than the 68l.

Both gybe well.

Size to go for also depends on how big a move you're making down - before I got the 78l, I sailed mostly on a 100l board. If you're looking for a general purpose board for really really windy days, prob a 75l wave board is the go. If I had to chose between the two, the FSW would stay.

Then there is the colour choice....

divaldo
SA, 2879 posts
21 Feb 2011 12:57PM
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My wife loves her Quatro 68 ltr High wind wave, uses it in most conditions over 18 knots.

For anything under 18knots, she tends to use a 75 ltr FSW,

Not sure how much she weighs, but at a guess between 60-65 kgs,

Smaller the board the better it will be to get through chop,

:)

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
21 Feb 2011 5:11PM
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divaldo said...

My wife loves her Quatro 68 ltr High wind wave, uses it in most conditions over 18 knots.

For anything under 18knots, she tends to use a 75 ltr FSW,

Not sure how much she weighs, but at a guess between 60-65 kgs,

Smaller the board the better it will be to get through chop,

:)


Crikey I'm starting to get a complex..I use a 125 to about 18kts or 20 if its gusty then a 95....I take it the wind is consistent for those choices? I won't be paying much if I get another board as it prob only blows + 25kts < 10 x a year so I don't know if I'll have a choice in my budget price between a FSW or waveboard.

JoLee
QLD, 294 posts
21 Feb 2011 5:03PM
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sboardcrazy said...

divaldo said...

My wife loves her Quatro 68 ltr High wind wave, uses it in most conditions over 18 knots.

For anything under 18knots, she tends to use a 75 ltr FSW,

Not sure how much she weighs, but at a guess between 60-65 kgs,

Smaller the board the better it will be to get through chop,

:)


Crikey I'm starting to get a complex..I use a 125 to about 18kts or 20 if its gusty then a 95....I take it the wind is consistent for those choices? I won't be paying much if I get another board as it prob only blows + 25kts < 10 x a year so I don't know if I'll have a choice in my budget price between a FSW or waveboard.


JoLee
QLD, 294 posts
21 Feb 2011 5:22PM
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Sbc I'd go with a waveboard; 2nd hand more recent years for budget and the number of times you'll get 25knts and usually they have more rocker to cut thru the chop; IMO which allows a compromise if you don't want to go as small as Divaldo's wife.

I'd sugest a little smaller than my old 82ltr wave as I'm a little heavier than you (no mention of my weight)

I believe there's plenty of choice on the market.

With that much wind (25+) you'd find staying on the plane not a problem anyway. If it's that much of an unpredictable, gusty day; I'd give it a miss or stay with the 95ltr to uphaul if you really need to.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
21 Feb 2011 6:42PM
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JoLee said...

Sbc I'd go with a waveboard; 2nd hand more recent years for budget and the number of times you'll get 25knts and usually they have more rocker to cut thru the chop; IMO which allows a compromise if you don't want to go as small as Divaldo's wife.

I'd sugest a little smaller than my old 82ltr wave as I'm a little heavier than you (no mention of my weight)

I believe there's plenty of choice on the market.

With that much wind (25+) you'd find staying on the plane not a problem anyway. If it's that much of an unpredictable, gusty day; I'd give it a miss or stay with the 95ltr to uphaul if you really need to.


Ill have to get off my bum & learn how to uphaul it in chop.. I have a Tabou Pocket wave 78 ltre to try out..2005.. any feedback on that?

divaldo
SA, 2879 posts
21 Feb 2011 6:14PM
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I would go the 75-80ltr FSW option, especially if you are not going to get out in the waves too much,

95ltrs is still a very bouyant board, even i freak out with my 95ltr in high winds and I weigh 97kgs'

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
21 Feb 2011 6:45PM
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Yeah, either there is enough wind to waterstart, or I choose to drown.
I trioed to up-haul my 98L FS recently, hah, what a joke !!
I had up-hauling as a back-up plan that day too, just as well I didn't need it.

sboardcrazy said...

JoLee said...

Sbc I'd go with a waveboard; 2nd hand more recent years for budget and the number of times you'll get 25knts and usually they have more rocker to cut thru the chop; IMO which allows a compromise if you don't want to go as small as Divaldo's wife.

I'd sugest a little smaller than my old 82ltr wave as I'm a little heavier than you (no mention of my weight)

I believe there's plenty of choice on the market.

With that much wind (25+) you'd find staying on the plane not a problem anyway. If it's that much of an unpredictable, gusty day; I'd give it a miss or stay with the 95ltr to uphaul if you really need to.


Ill have to get off my bum & learn how to uphaul it in chop.. I have a Tabou Pocket wave 78 ltre to try out..2005.. any feedback on that?


JoLee
QLD, 294 posts
21 Feb 2011 6:05PM
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sboardcrazy said...

JoLee said...

Sbc I'd go with a waveboard; 2nd hand more recent years for budget and the number of times you'll get 25knts and usually they have more rocker to cut thru the chop; IMO which allows a compromise if you don't want to go as small as Divaldo's wife.

I'd sugest a little smaller than my old 82ltr wave as I'm a little heavier than you (no mention of my weight)

I believe there's plenty of choice on the market.

With that much wind (25+) you'd find staying on the plane not a problem anyway. If it's that much of an unpredictable, gusty day; I'd give it a miss or stay with the 95ltr to uphaul if you really need to.


Ill have to get off my bum & learn how to uphaul it in chop.. I have a Tabou Pocket wave 78 ltre to try out..2005.. any feedback on that?


Good idea trying it out. That's the best way to know; don't you agree. Lucky you had the opportunity.

Hope it's a decent bit of wind from the High for you. I think the board 'l rip for you.

JoLee
QLD, 294 posts
21 Feb 2011 6:16PM
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JoLee said...

sboardcrazy said...

JoLee said...

Sbc I'd go with a waveboard; 2nd hand more recent years for budget and the number of times you'll get 25knts and usually they have more rocker to cut thru the chop; IMO which allows a compromise if you don't want to go as small as Divaldo's wife.

I'd sugest a little smaller than my old 82ltr wave as I'm a little heavier than you (no mention of my weight)

I believe there's plenty of choice on the market.

With that much wind (25+) you'd find staying on the plane not a problem anyway. If it's that much of an unpredictable, gusty day; I'd give it a miss or stay with the 95ltr to uphaul if you really need to.


Ill have to get off my bum & learn how to uphaul it in chop.. I have a Tabou Pocket wave 78 ltre to try out..2005.. any feedback on that?


Good idea trying it out. That's the best way to know; don't you agree. Lucky you had the opportunity.

Hope it's a decent bit of wind from the High for you. I think the board 'l rip for you.


78ltr IMHO, with a little rocker is around a good size board. Not that I know much about individual brands.

wespyyl
WA, 118 posts
21 Feb 2011 4:53PM
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Wouldn't it be easier to learn how to waterstart rather than learning how to uphaul on a board thats too small.

Water starting is a good thing to learn and practice and a lot less tiring than uphauling in choppy conditions.

If your going out in more than about 10 knots theres enough wind to waterstart on.

Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
21 Feb 2011 6:58PM
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I have a Tabou Pocket wave 78 ltre to try out..2005.. any feedback on that?

When I was thinking of getting a high wind board the pocket wave was top of my list. Then we stopped getting any high wind...
78 is probably a good step down from 95. It will take a little adjustment but won't take long. I'd go smaller now, having been on a 74L, I'd be looking around 60L for a high wind board.

Mark _australia
WA, 23717 posts
21 Feb 2011 10:37PM
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JoLee said...

Sbc I'd go with a waveboard; 2nd hand more recent years for budget and the number of times you'll get 25knts and usually they have more rocker to cut thru the chop; IMO which allows a compromise if you don't want to go as small as Divaldo's wife.



Just to clarify - rocker does not help with chop. You need a little nose rocker obviously or else you'd never go over chop. Tail rocker (which is what most people are thinking of when they refer to rocker) makes it turn, and it is what makes a waveboard NOT so good in chop. Reason is it wants to turn and it tries to take a wiggly side to side track though chop.
A waveboard, flat out overpowered, is a lot harder to control that a freeride or a FSW. Trouble for the ladies is that nobody makes 60L freeride boards! However you can get the smallest FSW they make and use a slightly smaller fin than standard.

What helps in chop is vee, predominantly.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
22 Feb 2011 2:23PM
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KenHo said...

Yeah, either there is enough wind to waterstart, or I choose to drown.
I trioed to up-haul my 98L FS recently, hah, what a joke !!
I had up-hauling as a back-up plan that day too, just as well I didn't need it.

sboardcrazy said...

JoLee said...

Sbc I'd go with a waveboard; 2nd hand more recent years for budget and the number of times you'll get 25knts and usually they have more rocker to cut thru the chop; IMO which allows a compromise if you don't want to go as small as Divaldo's wife.

I'd sugest a little smaller than my old 82ltr wave as I'm a little heavier than you (no mention of my weight)

I believe there's plenty of choice on the market.

With that much wind (25+) you'd find staying on the plane not a problem anyway. If it's that much of an unpredictable, gusty day; I'd give it a miss or stay with the 95ltr to uphaul if you really need to.


Ill have to get off my bum & learn how to uphaul it in chop.. I have a Tabou Pocket wave 78 ltre to try out..2005.. any feedback on that?





I decided to try & learn to uphaul the 95 ltre today in choppy conditions with a 5.8m sail..I got standing which was an improvement although the deck grip was like sandpaper on my shins..The 125 has comfy padding so they must assume you'll be uphauling a 125 but not a 95 ! I may have got it once but generally either the tail or nose would sink & I'd fall off.I had a fairly wide stance , tried to stay on the centreline & adjust my weight it keep it even but.. I suppose I'll just have to perservere & wear shin protection!

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
22 Feb 2011 2:27PM
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wespyyl said...

Wouldn't it be easier to learn how to waterstart rather than learning how to uphaul on a board thats too small.

Water starting is a good thing to learn and practice and a lot less tiring than uphauling in choppy conditions.

If your going out in more than about 10 knots theres enough wind to waterstart on.


I've been waterstarting for 20 years.. its the emergency uphauling when the wind dies that eludes me..It would extend the use of my 95 ltre if I could master uphauling it..e.g - today big chop so need little board but big lulls so need big board.. I used the little one until it the wind got too low & crappy wind then got bashed to bits trying to use the big one .Of course the @## picked up beautifully as I was packing up grr

JoLee
QLD, 294 posts
22 Feb 2011 1:38PM
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Did you enjoy the 78ltr SBC when the wind was up?

Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
22 Feb 2011 1:27PM
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I was told yesterday that when uphauling a short board, have the back foot in the downwind front footstrap for stability.
I haven't tried it yesterday but it looked good when demonstrated.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
22 Feb 2011 5:27PM
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JoLee said...

Did you enjoy the 78ltr SBC when the wind was up?


Wasn't up enough ..only very gusty 15 - 20kts..

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8355 posts
22 Feb 2011 5:28PM
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Windxtasy said...

I was told yesterday that when uphauling a short board, have the back foot in the downwind front footstrap for stability.
I haven't tried it yesterday but it looked good when demonstrated.


I remember reading that.. Pity I forgot when I was out! Still I had been awake from 3 am so not really with it anyway..



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