Can someone tell me what the naish board [SLALOM?] of 4-5 years ago was with the really short nose? More to the point what were the pros and cons of the short nose ?
Think it was called the Naish Hybrid.
Good for fitting into the back of your car and going fast on flat water.
(they also reckoned the cut off nose helped the board stay down on the water at speed in high winds, as there was less nose lift for the wind to get under)
- I think you can pick them up pretty cheaply now as they were not super versatile.
-Why do you ask 2 dogs?
First of all how did you know i have two dogs?anyhow my dogs don't talk to me.[sorry Ive missed something there ,where does two dogs come from]The reason i ask is i am planning a board build project and looking at certain design features to incorporate into the build.Hybrid rings a bell.thanks
there were 3- the hybrid freeride, hybrid wave & sp (slightiy longer at 218 or so). I had the sp91, great board in flat, not quite as good in chop as rocker transition a bit sharp due to board length & not quite as good at early planning. Pros are great pitch control & the sp were definitely quck. I have heard that apparently robby was a bit disappointed at publics non acceptance of really short boards as he felt they were better.
I have the Naish Hybrid 110.......and love it..
Use a 6.5 Severne Overdrive.
I can put the board in the front seat of my ute.
Hi, Pirrad,
An ad for the Hybrid said" Less swing weight, Less bounce, Less drag". The board came in two volumes: 89 L and 110 L.
Like the Hypersonic, it was an acquired taste and when mastered, people raved. Perhaps not enough people raved, because the concept died pretty quickly.
Will send you a private message.
Regards,
WindmanV
ps: the punch line to the joke is really "Why do you ask, two dogs f**king?"
The disadvantages are difficulty of tacking and difficulty of getting home when the wind drops. It is easier to get home on something with 20 less litres but 30 cm more length. Chop is not as much of a problem as you'd think.
They are 214 cm long which converts exactly to 7' 0 " which for imperial surfing nations is something to crow about and which was, I suspect, the fundamental design parameter.
The Hybrid 110 was my no.1 board for 4yrs but its lack of versatility was frustrating. The super short length imparts some endearing dynamics but I was forced to acquire another similarly sized board to solve the versatility problem
I will add, the short length isn't a bad thing- I've ridden both the hybrid (freerides) & both of the short SP's. In saying they not quite as good in chop I am refering to short spaced sharp chop which we get alot here, once the chop opens up a bit the boards are great... in the air amazing control it's there you can see why robby loved them. IanK is correct with versatility, once the wind dropped a bit on the sp91 I may as well have been on my missile (smallest feeling 90L board i've ever used). I stayed with my F2 SX medium over the sp110 as the sp much harder to tack and I have slightly more confidence going broad on the longer board.
Never rode a Naish Hybrid as they just didn,t make one small enough for me, so I bought a Kids Pro S. At 72lt and 210 long its very short, fast in anything but short sharp chop. The best board I found for this sort of sailing was a narrow speed board. The short nose makes it easy to swap ends particularly pushing up wind in chop and mast position is critical, 5mm will make a big difference. Loves going off the wind and super quick if its a square course. No nose to lift. Very good to jybe with no nose to slow you down. I use this board for Alphas and 1hrs at the Pit.
I think the naish brids 110 and 90 are still two of the best all round salmon freeride boards ever made I still have the 90 this is one very quick board it
Hi,
Sorry to butt in to this discussion, but I'm looking for a new board and am wandering if the Naish 110L would be suitable.
I'm an intermediate (self taught). I'm 86kg (13.5 stone) and 6ft 5in. I am getting used to the harness, and am working towards the footstraps. I can beach start, but not water start so am still uphauling most of the time and I spend quite a bit of time in the water! I have sailed an old Bic Astro Roc, (125L?) which in the right conditions I'm ok on.
Would this board be suitable? I want a board that I can use now but also develop on, that will last a few years. Anyone got any comments on this (or any other boards) please?
Also, any advice on what a sensible price would be?
Thanks for any help.
Cheers,
LeVo.
Levo,
Get an XCite Ride 120-130 litre. Great to learn AND PROGRESS on and will remain as your light wind board as you get waterstarts etc sorted out. Will not be disappointed. Im 90-95kgs and have a 130 and will not let it go - they're keepers.
i had a naish hybrid 89...imo great board...ultra compact and a joy to sail
easily the best gybing board(slalom/ speed) i have sailed in recent times.
nice and quick,nice in chop...
Ian k nailed it tho....very difficult to tack,but not impossible, and a complete dog to shlog on. even at 89litres and a full floater for me...it was difficult to get up and going in fluky conditions.
traded it for more float (iso 105) but have regretted selling it ever since..
Building Boards.... I am a composite fabricator, have my own business building F1 powerboats, V8 supercar componetary, Class one offshore powerboats, basiclly anything performance oriented, and am a keen windsurfer. Building a board, sure no problem ,but honestly by the time I get a blank, shape it either by hand or cnc, laminate, inserts, fair, paint, non skid and buy materials. At todays hourly rates it's easier and cheaper to continue with my everyday work and go and buy one straight out of the shop, that way I'm out on the water on the weekend not at the workshop. However that's just where I'm at, If you get the satisfaction out of doing it yourself and experimenting with shapes and all that, that's all good too.
just different perspectives!
It would really only balance out if you were comparing it to current shape pure slalom/speed boards most of which are floating around the $3000 point, but then they have thousands of development hours behind their shapes. Or you could just buy last years board which in most cases is just as quick for $800-1000 cheaper.
As a fabricator though you would probably use better materials than any production board is constructed from.
Yeah thats true, sorry ,didn't defiine it was about slalom and as you say, just get last years board and it makes it even more attracive
